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36. Your "presumption" is just that
Thu May 2, 2013, 01:34 PM
May 2013

Please explain how, according to the law in Venezuela, the President of the Assembly doesn't have the right to cut off a disruptive speaker or deny them the floor.

YOU said Cabello did something illegal, YOU prove it.


Asking a member of parliament whether or not he accepts the democratic legitimacy of an elected president is not a "political test". It is a test whether he intends to insult the head of government as well as the people who voted for him and the institution that was carrying out the election.

I don't know how they do it in the US, but in Germany, the Bundestagspräsident appears to have these rights:

... the President ensures the maintenance of parliamentary order during sittings. For example, he or she may warn Members who have spoken too long, direct them to discontinue speaking and even exclude them from plenary sittings and committee meetings for up to 30 sitting days.

http://www.bundestag.de/htdocs_e/bundestag/presidium/function.html

Typically, national, state, and other full-scale legislative assemblies have extensive internally written rules of order

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliamentary_procedure


Not recognizing the legitimate, democratically elected president in a public speech could be interpreted as agitating for the violent overthrow of the legitimate government, given the circumstances, which is an illegal act in Venezuela AFAIK. In addition, making false accusations (with fake proof) is slander. I am not familiar with the particular parliamentary rules in Venezuela, but, generally speaking, even deviating too far from the point of a certain debate, or making offensive remarks can be legitimate reasons for a President to cut a speaker off or even punish him further. If the member doesn't like it, he can always seek redress from judicial authorities ...

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The fascist need to get a new shtick. Arctic Dave May 2013 #1
It is worn out. They think people don't recognize their tired old scripts Catherina May 2013 #2
My god, that big ugly pig with the airhorn has a wide, toothy grin on her face Judi Lynn May 2013 #5
There Are A Lot Of Pissed Off Venezuelans StevePaulson May 2013 #10
All those money spent and they lost again! Fair and square! Of course they are pissed off! idwiyo May 2013 #19
Thanks so much for this report and its visuals! Peace Patriot May 2013 #3
Peace Patriot StevePaulson May 2013 #9
Oh, please DO tell how Chavez controlled all media in Venezuela! Oh paragon of hidden knowledge! idwiyo May 2013 #16
"Nuevo Cuba?" Really? Nuevo Cuba. Do you know how STUPID that sounds? Judi Lynn May 2013 #20
Worse yet, the Ugly Americans think they are right and justified Demeter May 2013 #27
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Maduro Stole The Election StevePaulson May 2013 #8
No... Series? Like RILLY RILLY SERIES? OMG!!!1!!!eleventyone!!11 Thee TRUTH is finally revealed! idwiyo May 2013 #13
Two more photos from one of your links which deserve a good hard squint: Judi Lynn May 2013 #6
Catherina, Are You Insane? StevePaulson May 2013 #7
Nope. Totally wrong. ocpagu May 2013 #11
Capriles only proved, again, after the vote why no one should have voted for him earlier! n/t Judi Lynn May 2013 #15
Most clearly NOT insane, and not a degenerate, either, like oligarchs. Judi Lynn May 2013 #14
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The Cubans are going to trick the Venezuelan Caprilistas into attacking Cuba Judi Lynn May 2013 #21
They control the horizontal, they control the vertical, don't try to adjust. You'll be next, idwiyo May 2013 #22
"and she is still crying"? Comedy gold like the rest of your post n/t Catherina May 2013 #23
Don't you just Luuuurve the Extra Tear Jerking Touch of "my wife is still crying"! It adds sooo idwiyo May 2013 #24
I'm still trying to understand why his wife's tears should be my concern Catherina May 2013 #25
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I tell you, my heart bleeders pink panther piss for Capriles & them poor rich cronies of his! idwiyo May 2013 #18
While everyone is entitled to his own opinion Demeter May 2013 #28
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please explain reorg May 2013 #30
I presume naaman fletcher May 2013 #35
Your "presumption" is just that reorg May 2013 #36
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