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MinM

(2,650 posts)
9. Historically sound move...
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 07:44 AM
Oct 2013

Stephen Kinzer made this observation on Fresh Air...


Meet 'The Brothers' Who Shaped U.S. Policy, Inside And Out

by NPR Staff
October 16, 201312:33 PM
...

On the Dulles' ability to overthrow regimes in Iran and Guatemala but not in Cuba or Vietnam

They were able to succeed [at regime change] in Iran and Guatemala because those were democratic societies, they were open societies. They had free press; there were all kinds of independent organizations; there were professional groups; there were labor unions; there were student groups; there were religious organizations. When you have an open society, it's very easy for covert operatives to penetrate that society and corrupt it.

Actually, one of the people who happened to be in Guatemala at the time of the coup there was the young Argentine physician Che Guevara. Later on, Che Guevara made his way to Mexico and met Fidel Castro. Castro asked him, "What happened in Guatemala?" He was fascinated; they spent long hours talking about it, and Che Guevara reported to him ... "The CIA was able to succeed because this was an open society." It was at that moment that they decided, "If we take over in Cuba, we can't allow democracy. We have to have a dictatorship. No free press, no independent organizations, because otherwise the CIA will come in and overthrow us." In fact, Castro made a speech after taking power with [Guatemalan President Jacobo] Árbenz sitting right next to him and said, "Cuba will not be like Guatemala." ...


http://www.npr.org/2013/10/16/234752747/meet-the-brothers-who-shaped-u-s-policy-inside-and-out
Limited executive powers used repeatedly Warren Stupidity Oct 2013 #1
If you read it, its not very limited. Grants dictatorial powers to that idiot Maduro Bacchus4.0 Oct 2013 #2
Please find an example other tan Chavez Socialistlemur Oct 2013 #5
No problem. Warren Stupidity Oct 2013 #7
Those laws weren't intended to fight corruption Socialistlemur Oct 2013 #15
Adolph Hitler in Germany 1933 n/t Bacchus4.0 Oct 2013 #11
A blog-entry on the enabling-law from a few days ago: (link) DetlefK Oct 2013 #3
of course its a ploy to rid the ruling class of the opposition Bacchus4.0 Oct 2013 #4
It is a move to shut down the National Assembly. Socialistlemur Oct 2013 #6
+1 n/t Bacchus4.0 Oct 2013 #8
Historically sound move... MinM Oct 2013 #9
Cuba certainly followed that strategy of a dictatorship Bacchus4.0 Oct 2013 #10
And here is what the proposed and very publicly discussed enabling law is really about. Peace Patriot Oct 2013 #12
why does Maduro need dictatorial powers to combat corruption? Bacchus4.0 Oct 2013 #13
Why did Lula da Silva need Brazil's "enabling law" to protect a wide swath of the Amazon... Peace Patriot Oct 2013 #18
Chavez got the enabling law for fighting against corruption ALREADY in 2007 spanza Oct 2013 #19
the law that enabled farmers to acquire title to land, not to become a dictator Bacchus4.0 Oct 2013 #20
Pure baloney from a government financed propaganda site Socialistlemur Oct 2013 #16
The repressive, dictatorship consecrating, enabling law is out Bacchus4.0 Oct 2013 #14
Eventually they'll have a revolution, new constitutional assembly Socialistlemur Oct 2013 #17
they are definitely moving toward a dictatorship Bacchus4.0 Oct 2013 #21
I'll bet that Carmona is so jealous. nt bemildred Oct 2013 #22
update: the chavistas are currently trying to expel 2 members of the opposition from congress Bacchus4.0 Oct 2013 #23
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