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11. And the transcript plus. Warning: the "so-called renewable" energy haters won't like this.
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 04:05 AM
Feb 2021
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bill-gates-climate-change-60-minutes-2021-02-14/

Stuff in double parenthesis like ((this)) are Progree's additions, as is all emphasis.

But of all his green investments, Gates has spent the most time and money pursuing a breakthrough in nuclear energy -- arguing it's key to a zero carbon future.

He says he's a big believer in wind and solar and thinks it can one day provide up to 80% of the country's electricity, but Gates insists unless we discover an effective way to store and ship wind and solar energy, nuclear power will likely have to do the rest. Energy from nuclear plants can be stored so it's available when the sun isn't shining and the wind isn't blowing.

... In 2008 he founded TerraPower, a company that has re-designed a nuclear reactor.

Anderson Cooper: This is your prototype?

Bill Gates: Exactly. TerraPower's Natrium Reactor. This is a rendering, we haven't built it yet. But here's the nuclear island right here.

Anderson Cooper: This is the reactor?

Bill Gates: Exactly.

((there's a picture of it, and it's sitting on a table the size of a ping pong table, covering about 1/3 of the table's area. It looks like a fuel rod assembly, it's not the whole reactor))

... In October, the Department of Energy awarded TerraPower $80 million to build one of the first advanced nuclear reactors in the U.S.

... ((then while discussing how he has and flies a private plane))

You know, I switched to an electric car ((Gasp!)). I use solar panels ((Gasp!)). I'm paying a company that actually at a very high price, can pull a bit of carbon out of the air and stick it underground. And so I'm offsetting my personal emissions.

Anderson Cooper: Those are called carbon offsets?

Bill Gates: Right. So you know, it's costing like $400 a ton. It's like $7 million.

Anderson Cooper: So you're paying $7 million a year to offset your carbon footprint?

Bill Gates: Yup.


Obviously the above isn't the entire transcript. There's several other green technologies discussed, I just included the nuclear and "so-called" renewable energy stuff in the above, as well as the carbon offset stuff which was kind of interesting -- actually pulling CO2 out of the air and sticking it in the ground, as opposed to airy-fairy tree-planting stuff that Bolsonaro or lightning or Trump types will just burn or cut down.

In 2016, the U.S. per capita emissions was 15.50 metric tons. So if we each did this, it would cost $400 X 15.50 = $6200 per person per year on average.

As for the reactor, I left out the stuff about how it is inherently safe, cooled by liquid sodium, is not high pressure, all assembled in a factory etc. Stuff you can read all the bubbly boo at https://www.terrapower.com/

A competitor in futuristic advanced nuclear concepts is https://www.nuscale.com/

By the way, they both say they are being developed to work well with heavily solar and wind systems. So it's not true that only fossil fuel plants can back up solar and wind.

Bill Gates on 60 Minutes just now. [View all] c-rational Feb 2021 OP
OK, then how do we deal with nuclear waste? SharonAnn Feb 2021 #1
A hell of a lot more easily than carbon waste Salviati Feb 2021 #2
Recycle as much as you currently can like France Freethinker65 Feb 2021 #3
If we keep going as we are now carbon will cause cataclysmic human carnage. This from c-rational Feb 2021 #5
Latest number on air pollution: 8.7 Million deaths in 2018 progree Feb 2021 #9
Bill Gates also believes in school privatization Merlot Feb 2021 #4
I agree on both counts - school privatization is a bad idea, not just poor, and wealth does not c-rational Feb 2021 #6
His false assertions regarding schools also don't make his assertions about energy false nt Shermann Feb 2021 #7
Global warming might kill billions, nukes might help. Do it. Cicada Feb 2021 #8
And here's the video from 60 Minutes: Rhiannon12866 Feb 2021 #10
And the transcript plus. Warning: the "so-called renewable" energy haters won't like this. progree Feb 2021 #11
If I thought Bill Gates was oracular, it might disturb me. However I don't do... NNadir Feb 2021 #13
I forgot, what were the CO2 atmospheric concentrations at Mauna Loa when the first progree Feb 2021 #14
Nuclear power was stopped cold from growing around 1990. NNadir Feb 2021 #15
Solar and wind didn't become economically competiitve until a few years ago (with subsidies) progree Feb 2021 #16
Yes, electricity prices are wonderful in Texas this morning. NNadir Feb 2021 #18
Oh, and about "expensive..." NNadir Feb 2021 #17
On expense, yup, that was then, this is now progree Feb 2021 #19
So if we replace all fossil fuel and so-called renewable with nuclear at $12 Million/MW, progree Feb 2021 #20
Every nuclear plant built in the US now needs to meet FOAKE costs. NNadir Feb 2021 #21
Nuclear costs have gone way up in France since France built its system progree Feb 2021 #22
China just bought its 50th nuclear plant on line last week. NNadir Feb 2021 #23
Well good for China, maybe you can do your "in this century" thing progree Feb 2021 #24
A gigawatt for a system with 20-30% capacity utilization is not equivalent to a gigawatt... NNadir Feb 2021 #25
"A gigawatt for a system with 20-30% capacity utilization is not equivalent to a gigawatt... progree Feb 2021 #26
Maybe you should write to Bill Gates the reasons why so-called renewables have not worked, progree Feb 2021 #27
No, I couldn't care less what Bill Gates thinks. NNadir Feb 2021 #30
Too bad, he has a lot bigger megaphone and influence than you do, so not giving a shit about progree Feb 2021 #31
I am not talking about the ability to advertise. Trump had a great deal of influence as well. NNadir Feb 2021 #34
By your Mauna Loa criteria, the trillions spent on solar, wind, and nuclear have not even remotely progree Feb 2021 #39
Re: China's impressive statistics, neither of these are: 406 TWh wind, 330 TWh nuclear progree Feb 2021 #28
I remarked on them as energy. We obviously disagree mightily on how impressive less than 2 EJ... NNadir Feb 2021 #32
On reliability differences between nuclear and solar/wind, that's what I was advocating progree Feb 2021 #33
"We obviously disagree mightily" (sigh, here we go again, assuming I thinking something progree Feb 2021 #35
I apologize. I'm not a very bright guy. I interpreted the statement... NNadir Feb 2021 #37
OK. progree Feb 2021 #38
Thank you for all your commentary NNadir. I agree with your position. Difficult to argue with facts c-rational Feb 2021 #29
K & R Duppers Feb 2021 #12
found this on twitter: PETRUS Feb 2021 #36
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