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In reply to the discussion: Bill Gates on 60 Minutes just now. [View all]progree
(10,901 posts)14. I forgot, what were the CO2 atmospheric concentrations at Mauna Loa when the first
commercial nuclear power plants went into service in the 1950's, and what are they now?
EDIT: And how much is being built now?
The World Nuclear Industry, Status Report, 2020, September 2020 (WNISR2020)
https://www.worldnuclearreport.org/IMG/pdf/wnisr2020-v2_lr.pdf
EDIT: Seems like, unfortunately, a lot of it boils down to an overweight on economics: wind and solar didn't become economically competitive (with subsidies and arguably without in some systems) until a few years ago, while new nuclear went from quite competitive to expensive boondoggles somehow, especially in the West, but not only in the West.
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If we keep going as we are now carbon will cause cataclysmic human carnage. This from
c-rational
Feb 2021
#5
I agree on both counts - school privatization is a bad idea, not just poor, and wealth does not
c-rational
Feb 2021
#6
His false assertions regarding schools also don't make his assertions about energy false nt
Shermann
Feb 2021
#7
And the transcript plus. Warning: the "so-called renewable" energy haters won't like this.
progree
Feb 2021
#11
If I thought Bill Gates was oracular, it might disturb me. However I don't do...
NNadir
Feb 2021
#13
I forgot, what were the CO2 atmospheric concentrations at Mauna Loa when the first
progree
Feb 2021
#14
Solar and wind didn't become economically competiitve until a few years ago (with subsidies)
progree
Feb 2021
#16
So if we replace all fossil fuel and so-called renewable with nuclear at $12 Million/MW,
progree
Feb 2021
#20
A gigawatt for a system with 20-30% capacity utilization is not equivalent to a gigawatt...
NNadir
Feb 2021
#25
"A gigawatt for a system with 20-30% capacity utilization is not equivalent to a gigawatt...
progree
Feb 2021
#26
Maybe you should write to Bill Gates the reasons why so-called renewables have not worked,
progree
Feb 2021
#27
Too bad, he has a lot bigger megaphone and influence than you do, so not giving a shit about
progree
Feb 2021
#31
I am not talking about the ability to advertise. Trump had a great deal of influence as well.
NNadir
Feb 2021
#34
By your Mauna Loa criteria, the trillions spent on solar, wind, and nuclear have not even remotely
progree
Feb 2021
#39
Re: China's impressive statistics, neither of these are: 406 TWh wind, 330 TWh nuclear
progree
Feb 2021
#28
I remarked on them as energy. We obviously disagree mightily on how impressive less than 2 EJ...
NNadir
Feb 2021
#32
On reliability differences between nuclear and solar/wind, that's what I was advocating
progree
Feb 2021
#33
"We obviously disagree mightily" (sigh, here we go again, assuming I thinking something
progree
Feb 2021
#35