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wtmusic

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10. "a 10% change can mean the difference between something happening and nothing happening."

Reply to GliderGuider (Reply #8)

Wed Oct 31, 2012, 10:38 AM

Oct 2012

Last edited Wed Oct 31, 2012, 04:57 PM - Edit history (1)

Absolutely, and a critical distinction to make.

It's possible Sandy wouldn't have happened at all with 10% less energy behind her. This is posted in E&E because (most of) the people here are able to understand these are non-linear relationships.

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Nobel-prizewinning geophysicist: climate change contributed "as much as 10%" of Sandy's energy [View all] wtmusic Oct 2012 OP

"10%"? Seems a bit conservative... NYC_SKP Oct 2012 #1

Fascinating picture RobertEarl Oct 2012 #2

Uhhhhhhh... Sorry Iggy Oct 2012 #3

Eh? RobertEarl Oct 2012 #4

A for Effort Iggy Oct 2012 #5

So... try this RobertEarl Oct 2012 #6

May be a tad conservative, IMO. AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #7

If what you say were to be true, GliderGuider Oct 2012 #9

How is my logic 'linear', exactly? AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #14

As far as I can tell you don't believe at least one of the following propositions: GliderGuider Oct 2012 #16

Paul, the problem with this is...... AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #18

We don't? GliderGuider Oct 2012 #19

Tipping points, yes. But not on the scale some have imagined, though. n/t AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #20

The chance that Arctic ice disappearance is directly related wtmusic Oct 2012 #11

Yes, but again, what I was trying to say...... AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #12

People look at that 10% as part of a linear process, and dismiss it. GliderGuider Oct 2012 #8

"a 10% change can mean the difference between something happening and nothing happening." wtmusic Oct 2012 #10

Did you mean would, or wouldn't happen? n/t AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #13

Wouldn't. Thanks for correction. nt wtmusic Oct 2012 #15

Sure. AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #17