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GliderGuider

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16. You have to start somewhere?

Reply to OKIsItJustMe (Reply #15)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 08:12 PM

Jan 2013

I prefer to say, "You have to stop somewhere." But we won't. We have triggered an entirely natural catastrophe, like an ibex triggering a landslide by scrambling across a mountaintop. The ibex can't push the rocks back uphill, and we're not that much more capable than your average ibex.

By all means build windmills. It's what tool monkeys do, after all - it's our Buddha nature. But please don't be too aggrieved if things that have been set in motion remain in motion despite it all.

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NOAA Confirms High Methane Leakage Rate Up To **9%** From Gas Fields [View all] GliderGuider Jan 2013 OP

Thanks OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #1

That sucking sound you hear GliderGuider Jan 2013 #2

I forwarded the Nature article off to Governor Cuomo OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #5

Good! The more ammunition they have against fracking, the better. nt GliderGuider Jan 2013 #8

I hope we have another Sandy ... (sort of) Vox Moi Jan 2013 #3

Looks like the gas-lovers who badmouthed the Cornell study NickB79 Jan 2013 #4

Well, to be generous… OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #7

That was the first thing I thought of, too. joshcryer Jan 2013 #18

Here's why I think we face a choiceless choice GliderGuider Jan 2013 #6

It's not a “choiceless choice” OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #9

We will not make the choice to undergo that degree of sacrifice. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #10

I don’t see where that necessarily follows… OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #15

You have to start somewhere? GliderGuider Jan 2013 #16

EU makes up 15% of global electrical consumption. joshcryer Jan 2013 #25

You'll pry the new smartphone I buy every 18 months from my cold, dead hands NoOneMan Jan 2013 #11

It's OK, I can wait... nt GliderGuider Jan 2013 #12

Sounds like a personal problem to me OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #13

Me neither NoOneMan Jan 2013 #14

Even as inhospitable as the results from IPCC RCP8.5 and the A1FI scenarios, CRH Jan 2013 #19

Yeah, I expect things to unravel a lot sooner than 2100 myself. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #20

Can't be said better than that. n/t CRH Jan 2013 #21

Funny you should mention Kevin Anderson, ... CRH Jan 2013 #28

Spot on - "a choiceless choice" due to the nature of our belief in exceptionalism Nihil Jan 2013 #23

This was being denied here just a few weeks back. joshcryer Jan 2013 #17

In that case the denial was probably the indirect defence of the wind industry ... Nihil Jan 2013 #22

That would be my assessment, too. joshcryer Jan 2013 #24

Oh, hey, the next line of defense will be that methane is a natural substance. djean111 Jan 2013 #26

seaQuest DSV. joshcryer Jan 2013 #27

Does anyone know if the leakage, ... CRH Jan 2013 #29