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In reply to the discussion: The Jevons Paradox is bullshit. [View all]NoOneMan
(4,795 posts)7. If we wanted to simplify the problem, pretending it doesn't exist may be easier
Though, I would assert that whatever we are seeing now may have far more to do with globalization (and btw, per capita figures don't mean a whole lot to Jevon's, as I understand it. Its about aggregate consumption).
But hey, if this data makes you hot and heavy, dig in.
FYI, globally we use more energy...the energy American's aren't using is exported to grow other places. Do you know what it is you are arguing? IOW, the efficiency gains cause these devices to be promoted and implemented more across the world and the "savings" of energy is shifted into the global economy.
I think you just....I don't know. I think you want to just keep buying more iPhones. Right? The more I think about this post, the less sense this post makes.
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It sounds like a 75% reduction in population would then save us ............
Angry Dragon
Jan 2013
#1
If we wanted to simplify the problem, pretending it doesn't exist may be easier
NoOneMan
Jan 2013
#7
Its non-news. Its fiction in the manner its being applied. You don't know what you are talking about
NoOneMan
Jan 2013
#12
There are about 5 billion people that are in fact hell-bent on consumption
GliderGuider
Jan 2013
#14
You claimed that it's not a consumption problem, it's a population problem
GliderGuider
Jan 2013
#20
Why are you looking at per capita energy consumption? What does Jevon's Paradox say about it?
NoOneMan
Jan 2013
#13
"I've shown that energy consumption is almost entirely related to population growth"
NoOneMan
Jan 2013
#16
Because they are using the energy freed up by our efficient innovations, and adopting them as well!
NoOneMan
Jan 2013
#22
Why, it certainly has correlated to growth in consumption within the global context
NoOneMan
Jan 2013
#35