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PamW

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38. How does that relate.....??????
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 04:46 PM
Dec 2013

kristopher,

How does the Davis-Besse incident in ANY way relate to what I posted????

I posted that the Japanese reputation for quality in the nuclear field was pretty much a SHAM.

If anything, the Japanese nuclear industry got their laurels from the good reputation of the Japanese automotive industry.

Now - by what "logic" does one arrive at the conclusion that I said the Japanese were responsible for Davis-Besse.

Sigh!!!

Additionally, you really are too "hung up" on the pretty much non-event at Davis-Besse.

Because you don't understand the workings of a nuclear power plant; you don't really understand how relatively benign the Davis-Besse incident was.

Before you go "nuclear", I'm not saying that it was OK. It was a big maintenance failure for Toledo Edison, and they should be ashamed.

However, as big as you think that fissure in the Davis-Besse vessel head is; it is relatively small compared to the size of the head.

The Davis-Besse PWR, like all PWRs in the USA have to be able to withstand a "double-ended guillotine break" of the main coolant piping. That is; imagine a big imaginary guillotine were to crash down and split the main coolant pipe, and then both ends were displaced laterally, so that coolant could escape from both cut ends. That's the "double-ended guillotine break" scenario.

Although there is no known mechanism that could cause such a breakage, and such a breakage would be THOUSANDS of times worse than the Davis-Besse fissure; the PWR is required BY LAW and NRC regulations to be able to survive the "double-ended guillotine break" without endangering the public.

I know it looks "impressively bad"; but if you knew the physics and fluid dynamics; you wouldn't be so impressed.

Lots of things look A LOT worse than they really are.

PamW


PamW

One more nuclear energy mishap and you can write nuclear energy off as history madokie Dec 2013 #1
Here is an interactive map showing population around nuclear plants kristopher Dec 2013 #3
Population INCREASES near nuclear power plants. PamW Dec 2013 #4
So we have your vote kristopher Dec 2013 #6
kristopher's DESPERATION! PamW Dec 2013 #8
OK kristopher Dec 2013 #10
Pretty PUNY mushroom cloud. PamW Dec 2013 #14
Why do people move there? For jobs! Starboard Tack Dec 2013 #42
I just looked randomly at three madokie Dec 2013 #7
100% WRONG!! AGAIN!! PamW Dec 2013 #2
If you don't calm down you're going to have a heart attack madokie Dec 2013 #5
I'm NOT upset!! PamW Dec 2013 #9
You coulda' fooled me madokie Dec 2013 #13
NOT at ALL!!! PamW Dec 2013 #18
You think you could get by with talking to me like this in person madokie Dec 2013 #21
Why is it any way inappropriate? PamW Dec 2013 #26
BALONEY!!! PamW Dec 2013 #11
I don't give a damn if you're Jesus Christ or Gawd himself madokie Dec 2013 #15
Why would there be anything wrong with it??? PamW Dec 2013 #19
You just don't get it do you? madokie Dec 2013 #23
PamGreg isn't upset kristopher Dec 2013 #12
I wonder the same think madokie Dec 2013 #16
kristopher's retreat... PamW Dec 2013 #22
I don't feel sure I understand the question phantom power Dec 2013 #17
I was wondering the same thing NickB79 Dec 2013 #20
You have your 'clarification' kristopher Dec 2013 #25
One could say... PamW Dec 2013 #27
You're making a personal attack to avoid an uncomfortable question kristopher Dec 2013 #28
They may have been the most gungho... PamW Dec 2013 #31
Anyone familiar with near misses like Davis Besse knows that we've just been lucky. kristopher Dec 2013 #32
100% WRONG!! AGAIN!! PamW Dec 2013 #35
Right.That football sized hole in Davis Besse's reactor head is something the Japanese did. kristopher Dec 2013 #37
How does that relate.....?????? PamW Dec 2013 #38
You didn't, in fact, offer any clarification NickB79 Dec 2013 #33
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OK, I think I see... phantom power Dec 2013 #30
Seriously? You are disputing the fact that prevailing winds saved Tokyo? kristopher Dec 2013 #34
Mathematical ILLITERACY at play PamW Dec 2013 #36
More like either illiteracy or deliberate misdirection on your part kristopher Dec 2013 #40
You don't understand sample sizes??? PamW Dec 2013 #43
That isn't relevant at all to your attempt at data trimming ... kristopher Dec 2013 #44
'Shoot the messenger' is THE go to strategy the nuclear industry uses against any and all critics. kristopher Dec 2013 #47
The consequences are clear enough. 2013 is going to be the worst year for accumulation of... NNadir Dec 2013 #29
So one needs to be a misanthrope to hold nuclear energy dear cprise Dec 2013 #39
Um...um...um... NNadir Dec 2013 #41
Why on earth would a smart guy like you have expected "this time" to be different? GliderGuider Dec 2013 #45
Go on NNadir, listen to GG... Join the dark side. n/t cprise Dec 2013 #46
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