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In reply to the discussion: Catastrophic Sea Level Rise within Three Generations [View all]xrm67
(21 posts)9. Exponential, exponential, exponential...
Last edited Thu Apr 9, 2015, 11:17 AM - Edit history (1)
No, Arctic sea ice decline has been exponential. In addition, old ice has been replaced by much newer, thinner ice to the point that algae is now growing underneath the surface of the ice. Just this winter, a new record low was recorded.
Arctic temperature amplification from exponentially declining sea ice and spring snow cover are the strongest feedbacks in our climate system today. The average albedo (reflectivity) of the Arctic region has decreased from 52% to a present day value of 48% over 3 or 4 decades. The increased absorption of energy in the Arctic has increased the temperature at high latitudes at rates up to 6 to 8x the global average temperature change. The reduced temperature difference between the Arctic and equator has reduced the west to east speed of the jet streams causing them to slow and become wavier and more fractured, and directly causing a large change in the statistics of our global weather. - Link
More recently:
The Arctic sea ice is thinning at a steadier and faster rate than researchers previously thought, a new study based on combined observations finds...
...Critics have said that previous calculations of ice loss seemed too rapid, and questioned their value, the researchers said. But the new study shows the ice may be thinning at an even faster rate than the calculations showed, the researchers said.
At least for the central Arctic basin, even our most drastic thinning estimate was slower than measured by these observations, co-researcher Axel Schweiger, a polar scientist at the University of Washington Applied Physics Laboratory, said to to LiveScience. - Link
IPCC linear modeling had Arctic sea ice disappearing by the end of this century, but it's happening this decade. The IPCC is corrupted by corporate interests...
...An 'exponential decline' in sea ice - covered up by the IPCC
According to the WMO, Arctic sea-ice extent reached its annual minimum extent on 17 September 2014, at just a patch above 5 million sq.km - the sixth lowest on record, according to the National Snow and Ice Data Center.
"There is quite a lot of natural variation from year to year", he says. "But the downward trend is clear - an exponential decline. It is what you expect from positive feedback, and exponential decline is a better fit to the data than a linear decline."
And he insists that his conclusions are firmly founded on peer-reviewed science, specifically observations of sea ice thickness confirmed by Cryosat-2, together with satellite imagery. Worse, he alleges, the IPCC has tampered with the raw data in order to downplay the dangers the world faces... - Link
An exponential trend was confirmed a couple years ago...
PIOMAS data confirm exponential trend
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...for each meter of sea level rise, the coastline is eroded, over time, by 100 meters.
xrm67
Apr 2015
#2
“The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function.
dixiegrrrrl
Apr 2015
#4
That's the first time you've mentioned freshwater, or inland glaciers
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2015
#13
Freshwater pulses slowing down ocean currents has nothing to do with sea level or ice area
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2015
#15
I will write a blog post about this and hopefully answer your questions once and for all.
xrm67
Apr 2015
#19
Again, no doubling period has been 'established' for sea level rise
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2015
#22
2 data points for ice loss does not mean 'exponential sea level rise'
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2015
#27
Any rational person can now see than an exponential doubling period has been established
xrm67
Apr 2015
#28
If you watch the video of Box I linked to in #22, you see he got the 69 feet from Alley
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2015
#30
If it's in fits and starts, it's not exponential, by definition (nt)
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2015
#45
Any process for something to be exponential while having gaps when nothing happens
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2015
#52
Limits to Growth projections were correct... We're on track for collapse of industrial civilization
xrm67
Apr 2015
#12
Yes, I'm sure they're all wrong. Where's my TV remote? Pass me the buttered popcorn.
xrm67
Apr 2015
#23
What's your opinion of the Earth System sensitivity estimate by Wasdell et al
GliderGuider
Apr 2015
#29