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In reply to the discussion: Israeli forces manhandle EU diplomats, seize West Bank aid [View all]Israeli
(4,169 posts)25. what is a " Pallywooders " shira ?
someone that does not agree with your politics or your believes ?
Here is our take on the situation .... take it or leave it shira :
http://adam-keller2.blogspot.co.il/
Even very few activists had heard of this village until last week; there was even a debate about how its name should be spelled. A small place, home to about one hundred and twenty adults and children, living the poor life of shepherds . Like with other villages in the Jordan Valley, the occupation authorities consider Khirbet Makhoul an annoyance to be gotten rid of especially when negotiations are taking place in which Israel demands to hold on to the Jordan Valley. Two weeks ago, the Supreme Court issued an unenlightened ruling which did not get much attention, approving the demolition of the village. Within a few days, soldiers and bulldozers arrived and wiped it off the face of the earth.
It was Gideon Levy, who specializes in casting light on dark places, who arrived on the scene first and met the people who were left homeless and destitute. Levy wrote an extensive report for the Sukkot holiday issue of "Haaretz." The Red Cross arrived and gave tents - but the army returned two days later and confiscated the tents, too. No big news.
Then occurred the incident which made headlines - diplomats from the European Union and France , the UK , Ireland , Spain and Australia all got directly involved, more directly than was the habit on similar cases in the past. They went to Khirbet Makhoul with a new shipment of tents and emergency supplies, and the troops received them with volleys of concussion grenades - which is the long-established army reaction to foreign busybodies from Human Rights organizations . The tents were confiscated by the soldiers, and Reuters flashed worldwide the image of Marion Castaing, Cultural Attaché at the French consulate in East Jerusalem, lying on the ground with a soldier pointing his gun at her.
Probably the soldiers did not know that this was an official representative of the government of France and that they were violating the Vienna Convention which requires states to respect the diplomatic immunity of foreign representatives. The French government filed a protest, as did the European Union. Israeli government officials were far from ready to apologize, but rather threatened to expel Castaing: "The role of diplomats is to build bridges and not to make provocations." However, the French Consulate in East Jerusalem is not accredited to Israel, and serves essentially as the de-facto French Embassy to the future State of Palestine. It could be said that Ms. Castaing did fulfill quite effectively the role of building bridges with the Palestinians
It was Gideon Levy, who specializes in casting light on dark places, who arrived on the scene first and met the people who were left homeless and destitute. Levy wrote an extensive report for the Sukkot holiday issue of "Haaretz." The Red Cross arrived and gave tents - but the army returned two days later and confiscated the tents, too. No big news.
Then occurred the incident which made headlines - diplomats from the European Union and France , the UK , Ireland , Spain and Australia all got directly involved, more directly than was the habit on similar cases in the past. They went to Khirbet Makhoul with a new shipment of tents and emergency supplies, and the troops received them with volleys of concussion grenades - which is the long-established army reaction to foreign busybodies from Human Rights organizations . The tents were confiscated by the soldiers, and Reuters flashed worldwide the image of Marion Castaing, Cultural Attaché at the French consulate in East Jerusalem, lying on the ground with a soldier pointing his gun at her.
Probably the soldiers did not know that this was an official representative of the government of France and that they were violating the Vienna Convention which requires states to respect the diplomatic immunity of foreign representatives. The French government filed a protest, as did the European Union. Israeli government officials were far from ready to apologize, but rather threatened to expel Castaing: "The role of diplomats is to build bridges and not to make provocations." However, the French Consulate in East Jerusalem is not accredited to Israel, and serves essentially as the de-facto French Embassy to the future State of Palestine. It could be said that Ms. Castaing did fulfill quite effectively the role of building bridges with the Palestinians
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Your ISM friends were looking for a confrontation, not to give humanitarian supplies.
shira
Oct 2013
#179
Thanks from that it appears she pointed her fist at the IDF guy after she was yanked from the truck
azurnoir
Sep 2013
#19
That was political opinion, not scholarship. Read Fizzik's comments below the article....
shira
Sep 2013
#56
You guys are the ones who have problems with Zionism, a Jewish state, Jewish apartheid vs. Arabs....
shira
Sep 2013
#125
Oh, your issue is with Israelis - not Jews? Then which Arab Israelis do you have....
shira
Oct 2013
#136
now this is what the real environment looks like...for those who are interested...
pelsar
Sep 2013
#48
the soldiers hand isnt even near the trigger-hes holding the weapon via the magazine...duh
pelsar
Sep 2013
#71
So there's apartheid in virtually every nation, right? Canada, Australia, USA...
shira
Oct 2013
#163
Nope, just exposing a poser and her BS compassion abuse. Jimmy Carter stated....
shira
Oct 2013
#167
yes, yes, I know that the IDF enjoys using "overwhelming force" in the occupied territories.
delrem
Sep 2013
#102
Israeli and I have PMed. That's what PMing is *for*, it's part of DU. Deal with it, pelsar.
delrem
Sep 2013
#127
PM all you want....it was you who wrote about 'subjects that are not talked about"
pelsar
Oct 2013
#130
I'm not "tolerant" of the KKK, or whatever "X-supremacist" so-called "culture" you name.
delrem
Oct 2013
#135
it's not about distracting from not being allowed to give tents to recently homeless Palestinians
azurnoir
Sep 2013
#72
The issues with your version of events was obvious as soon as vireo became available
eyl
Sep 2013
#91
so you too posit that the French were simply tooling about the West Bank for no reason
azurnoir
Sep 2013
#92
There's seemingly an abundance of "accidents" when the IDF is around.
R. Daneel Olivaw
Oct 2013
#205
eyl has been posting in IP way way way longer than you or most other people you see here now.
King_David
Sep 2013
#88
It goes against the Israeli doctrine of "Destroy the Palestinian people."
R. Daneel Olivaw
Oct 2013
#171
It all boils down to brute-force colonialism at the expense of human rights and dignity.
R. Daneel Olivaw
Oct 2013
#174
Dig in those heels as fast as you possibly can, Ober. Everything is rosy in your myopic world.
R. Daneel Olivaw
Oct 2013
#178
Are you suggesting that the horrors of the Holocaust are currently being repeated by Israel?
oberliner
Oct 2013
#187
I'm saying that the term "never again" only seems to apply to a few while they blindly abuse others.
R. Daneel Olivaw
Oct 2013
#188
And here comes the 3 ton straw dog, DUers, pushed out by pelsar to block out what Israel
R. Daneel Olivaw
Oct 2013
#191
Let me be clear, the Israelis aren't the victims in what they are doing in Palestine.
R. Daneel Olivaw
Oct 2013
#194
"It all boils down to brute-force colonialism at the expense of human rights and dignity."
R. Daneel Olivaw
Oct 2013
#196
Oh, so Israelis (not Jews) of all people...should have learned from the Holocaust?
shira
Oct 2013
#203
I guess you have to be a Pat Buchanan or David Duke clone (or is that clown) to understand....
shira
Oct 2013
#180
Well I wouldn't know. They're more in line with repressive Israeli politics so perhaps
R. Daneel Olivaw
Oct 2013
#184