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azurnoir

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45. I took a look so the soldier offered to pick her up

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Sat Sep 28, 2013, 12:12 AM

Sep 2013

Last edited Sat Sep 28, 2013, 12:49 AM - Edit history (1)

after they knocked her down and pointed a gun in her face I'm impressed alright how humane of that soldier

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Israeli forces manhandle EU diplomats, seize West Bank aid [View all] Eugene Sep 2013 OP

What problem does Israel see here? delrem Sep 2013 #1

We need to quit giving money to and defending Israel gopiscrap Sep 2013 #2

I've no objection to the US giving $ to and defending Israel. delrem Sep 2013 #3

So has this turned out to be BS or what? oberliner Sep 2013 #4

Nope just a very expected attempt to shift blame azurnoir Sep 2013 #5

That "diplomat" threw a punch at the officer in charge Mosby Sep 2013 #6

how many media reports mentioned the diplomat punching.... shira Sep 2013 #7

I think it's hilarious that it was PressTV who released a video of the incident Mosby Sep 2013 #21

where did you 'find' that entertaining little animation? azurnoir Sep 2013 #8

Not on 972mag oberliner Sep 2013 #9

where do you think ? Israeli Sep 2013 #10

So it's not true then ? King_David Sep 2013 #11

So it must not have actually happened oberliner Sep 2013 #12

so Israel wasn't attempting to prevent Palestinians from receiving tents ? azurnoir Sep 2013 #13

I'm sure they were oberliner Sep 2013 #15

They were preventing one of the basic human necessities: Shelter. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #170

Your ISM friends were looking for a confrontation, not to give humanitarian supplies. shira Oct 2013 #179

ah ya let's see here who's really doing the demonizing azurnoir Oct 2013 #186

Israel is the one that does the best job of demonizing Israel. n/t R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #189

No surprise azurnoir Sep 2013 #14

Where is the rest? oberliner Sep 2013 #16

4 seconds seems to all that anyone saw fit to post on youtube azurnoir Sep 2013 #17

PressTV Mosby Sep 2013 #18

Thanks from that it appears she pointed her fist at the IDF guy after she was yanked from the truck azurnoir Sep 2013 #19

Don't get so smug. That video eyl Sep 2013 #22

heres the link...and don't expect to azurnoir to take a second look, pelsar Sep 2013 #23

Az and the rest of them are all Pallywooders to me. n/t shira Sep 2013 #24

what is a " Pallywooders " shira ? Israeli Sep 2013 #25

this is the part ....and there is no excuse for it pelsar Sep 2013 #26

Odd, because Israeli once wrote she had a kid or 2 in the IDF... shira Sep 2013 #36

and your kids shira ??? .... Israeli Sep 2013 #42

Did you view the video I posted? eyl Sep 2013 #28

I'd also point out eyl Sep 2013 #33

Strange... shaayecanaan Sep 2013 #97

it also requires the diplomat eyl Sep 2013 #109

Are you Adam Keller? oberliner Sep 2013 #30

Probably just a fellow Hummus-Zionist King_David Sep 2013 #31

Pallywooders are propagandists and slanderers.... shira Sep 2013 #34

Are you Adam Keller King_David Oct 2013 #173

Anyone to the left of Meir Kahane is a Pallywooder to you (nt) shaayecanaan Sep 2013 #27

she seems to luv her some Richard Landes azurnoir Sep 2013 #29

I personally know Richard Landes. n/t shira Sep 2013 #37

are you a student or just a fan of his politics? n/t azurnoir Sep 2013 #38

fan of his scholarship. n/t shira Sep 2013 #39

and what marvellous scholarship it is... shaayecanaan Sep 2013 #40

Yeah, it is. n/t shira Sep 2013 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author shaayecanaan Sep 2013 #44

Mitt Romney’s ‘culture’ analysis defended by historian’s family azurnoir Sep 2013 #51

I understand your type of 'scholarship' is to accuse people of being racists.... shira Sep 2013 #54

Richard Landes:If you can’t vote for Romney, Don’t vote for Obama azurnoir Sep 2013 #55

That was political opinion, not scholarship. Read Fizzik's comments below the article.... shira Sep 2013 #56

His website-The Augean Stables is considered a rightwing site n/t azurnoir Sep 2013 #57

Do I need to explain to u the diff. b/w scholarship and political opinion? n/t shira Sep 2013 #59

is it sort of like how you read kahanist websites shaayecanaan Sep 2013 #60

It's sort of like how you'd read Playboy for the articles, not the porn. shira Sep 2013 #61

But you do get a big hit out of the porn, don't you? shaayecanaan Sep 2013 #62

Yes, all Zionists are racists and get off on Kahanist porn.... shira Sep 2013 #63

For the record... shaayecanaan Sep 2013 #64

Well that's a relief. I thought you were like someone else here.... shira Sep 2013 #65

Alright... shaayecanaan Sep 2013 #67

Wait. So anyone who says the land is disputed territory is a Kahanist? shira Sep 2013 #69

Well, here's another one... shaayecanaan Sep 2013 #84

Yes, that is racist. I agree... shira Sep 2013 #85

Oh good... shaayecanaan Sep 2013 #86

Why is a percentage necessary? shira Sep 2013 #87

Funny how you conflate Israelis and Jews when it suits you... shaayecanaan Sep 2013 #89

You guys are the ones who have problems with Zionism, a Jewish state, Jewish apartheid vs. Arabs.... shira Sep 2013 #125

Who do you think you're fooling here? The homes are not for Israeli Arabs azurnoir Oct 2013 #129

Oh, your issue is with Israelis - not Jews? Then which Arab Israelis do you have.... shira Oct 2013 #136

Name one okay I will Khaled Abu Tomeh azurnoir Oct 2013 #137

A journalist? I rest my case. shira Oct 2013 #145

Here is what you call the extremist Balad party wants azurnoir Oct 2013 #148

Ha the western elite decide who's acceptable leaders King_David Oct 2013 #146

Abu it's spelled Toameh is a journalist not a "leader" azurnoir Oct 2013 #147

"nor is Chomsky a leader" King_David Oct 2013 #153

So therefore dismantling the settlements is not anti-semitic... shaayecanaan Oct 2013 #149

Dismantling the settlements makes a future Palestine Jew-free, right? shira Oct 2013 #154

If a Jew breaks into my house... shaayecanaan Oct 2013 #156

Jews have ties to the land going back thousands of years.... shira Oct 2013 #157

So do the Assyrians, Maronites, Greek Orthodox, etc... shaayecanaan Oct 2013 #158

When you find a significant number of Greeks, Assyrians, Maronites.... shira Oct 2013 #159

The Greek Patriarchate has been there for 2000 years... shaayecanaan Oct 2013 #160

You're whitewashing Palestinian racism and apartheid vs. Jews.... shira Oct 2013 #162

I think the Jordanian law preventing Jews shaayecanaan Oct 2013 #168

Actually. Shaktimaan Oct 2013 #207

generally speaking one influences the other azurnoir Sep 2013 #73

Interesting find... shaayecanaan Sep 2013 #58

H aha ha King_David Sep 2013 #32

And anyone to the right of Stalin is a Kahanist in your view. Yawn... n/t shira Sep 2013 #35

I took a look so the soldier offered to pick her up azurnoir Sep 2013 #45

still going with the gun in her face? pelsar Sep 2013 #46

ummm azurnoir Sep 2013 #47

now this is what the real environment looks like...for those who are interested... pelsar Sep 2013 #48

Did Karsenty draw that up? He probably has some time on his hands these days azurnoir Sep 2013 #50

weird "triangulation" of the 2-d pic. delrem Sep 2013 #66

the soldiers hand isnt even near the trigger-hes holding the weapon via the magazine...duh pelsar Sep 2013 #71

The "triangulation" was to laugh! delrem Sep 2013 #93

What a ridiculous tangential and nonsensical post, King_David Sep 2013 #95

Sorry to offend you, Dave. delrem Sep 2013 #96

Racism is enshrined in Canadian law, delrem..... shira Sep 2013 #106

Yes. delrem Oct 2013 #161

So there's apartheid in virtually every nation, right? Canada, Australia, USA... shira Oct 2013 #163

No. Canada is not an apartheid nation. Israel is. delrem Oct 2013 #164

So now you're in denial of Canada's current apartheid vs. First Nations.... shira Oct 2013 #165

No, you're just lying - avoiding Israel's apartheid *law*, and diverting. delrem Oct 2013 #166

Nope, just exposing a poser and her BS compassion abuse. Jimmy Carter stated.... shira Oct 2013 #167

its a basic principle used by all govts..... pelsar Sep 2013 #98

yes, yes, I know that the IDF enjoys using "overwhelming force" in the occupied territories. delrem Sep 2013 #102

Canada has its own unique racist laws... pelsar Sep 2013 #104

Avoidance. delrem Sep 2013 #110

nothing to avoid....explain what laws.... pelsar Sep 2013 #111

I've done this before, several times, so here's a link: delrem Sep 2013 #112

and..... pelsar Sep 2013 #113

q.e.d., my case is proven. delrem Sep 2013 #114

thats it?....some israeli court cases?... pelsar Sep 2013 #115

given the fact that you trouble explaining yourself pelsar Sep 2013 #116

you needing some help delrem ? Israeli Sep 2013 #117

i think he does fine on his own.... pelsar Sep 2013 #118

what makes you think he has not already ... Israeli Sep 2013 #119

of course he could have.... pelsar Sep 2013 #120

such arrogance pelsar Israeli Sep 2013 #121

no....why would i? pelsar Sep 2013 #122

you have an obsession with my son pelsar .... Israeli Sep 2013 #123

Post Zionists ? King_David Sep 2013 #124

your son serves in the IDF......as does mine pelsar Oct 2013 #128

Israeli and I have PMed. That's what PMing is *for*, it's part of DU. Deal with it, pelsar. delrem Sep 2013 #127

PM all you want....it was you who wrote about 'subjects that are not talked about" pelsar Oct 2013 #130

I suggest that you take a time out, pelsar. delrem Oct 2013 #131

no thanks... pelsar Oct 2013 #132

OK, I'll explain. It's called "reductio ad absurdum" delrem Oct 2013 #133

i guess your not very cultural tolerant... pelsar Oct 2013 #134

I'm not "tolerant" of the KKK, or whatever "X-supremacist" so-called "culture" you name. delrem Oct 2013 #135

actually you have the supremacist culture.... pelsar Oct 2013 #138

Thanks! Very nice and concise articles, I bookmarked them. delrem Sep 2013 #126

your list was way too simplistic pelsar Oct 2013 #139

Have you read John Dugard's 2007 report on the subject oberliner Oct 2013 #140

no but obviously... pelsar Oct 2013 #141

Have you read former President Carter's book? oberliner Oct 2013 #142

one poster was very clear about it.... pelsar Oct 2013 #143

Totally agree oberliner Oct 2013 #144

Ran Greenstein ? King_David Oct 2013 #150

He was born here King_David Israeli Oct 2013 #151

Yes I know it's very important to you elitist King_David Oct 2013 #152

delrem, for you: "Idle No More and Canada's Prison Apartheid" shira Sep 2013 #107

pelsar already addressed eyl Sep 2013 #49

Then how'd she get on the ground? azurnoir Sep 2013 #52

obviously she slipped .... pelsar Sep 2013 #70

it's not about distracting from not being allowed to give tents to recently homeless Palestinians azurnoir Sep 2013 #72

if an article states facts... pelsar Sep 2013 #74

This gets 'richer' with each post really it does :) azurnoir Sep 2013 #75

your evidence? pelsar Sep 2013 #76

Multiple news stories pictures video ya know the stuff it took over a week azurnoir Sep 2013 #77

you've seen the video.... pelsar Sep 2013 #78

so I summed it up right according to you azurnoir Sep 2013 #79

still waiting for the evidence...well? pelsar Sep 2013 #80

the evidence is in the OP azurnoir Sep 2013 #81

written words..... pelsar Sep 2013 #82

as do we all but I really did think that photo was sort of amazing azurnoir Sep 2013 #83

no we all dont......not if there is no evidence to prove it pelsar Sep 2013 #99

you say this is the same as claims that Israel put AIDs in chewing gum? azurnoir Sep 2013 #101

The issues with your version of events was obvious as soon as vireo became available eyl Sep 2013 #91

so you too posit that the French were simply tooling about the West Bank for no reason azurnoir Sep 2013 #92

Where did I posit that? eyl Sep 2013 #108

Also, our IDF friend pelsar explains that "obviously she slipped". delrem Sep 2013 #94

isnt that how it works? pelsar Sep 2013 #100

That's how *you* work it, pelsar. The words are *yours*. delrem Sep 2013 #103

of course they're my words..... pelsar Sep 2013 #105

There's seemingly an abundance of "accidents" when the IDF is around. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #205

But where did you come from, eyl? delrem Sep 2013 #68

eyl has been posting in IP way way way longer than you or most other people you see here now. King_David Sep 2013 #88

As a kind of what? eyl Sep 2013 #90

Where are those four seconds posted on You Tube? oberliner Sep 2013 #20

Do you think that if you can determine that she wasn't "manhandled", delrem Sep 2013 #43

What's so terrible about building supplies? Ken Burch Oct 2013 #155

It goes against the Israeli doctrine of "Destroy the Palestinian people." R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #171

What are the numbers of Palestinians that Israel has starved to death? oberliner Oct 2013 #172

It all boils down to brute-force colonialism at the expense of human rights and dignity. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #174

I'm just wondering why you bolded that 7 million figure oberliner Oct 2013 #175

Try re-reading the entire post then read it again. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #176

OK oberliner Oct 2013 #177

Dig in those heels as fast as you possibly can, Ober. Everything is rosy in your myopic world. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #178

I don't agree oberliner Oct 2013 #182

Never again, Never again, Never again... R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #183

Are you suggesting that the horrors of the Holocaust are currently being repeated by Israel? oberliner Oct 2013 #187

I'm saying that the term "never again" only seems to apply to a few while they blindly abuse others. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #188

It doesn't oberliner Oct 2013 #192

let me help.... pelsar Oct 2013 #190

And here comes the 3 ton straw dog, DUers, pushed out by pelsar to block out what Israel R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #191

Can you answer my question directly? oberliner Oct 2013 #193

Let me be clear, the Israelis aren't the victims in what they are doing in Palestine. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #194

That was already made clear oberliner Oct 2013 #195

"It all boils down to brute-force colonialism at the expense of human rights and dignity." R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #196

So because Jews were slaughtered in the Holocaust by the millions... oberliner Oct 2013 #197

Those that practice brute force colonialism, apartheid and murder R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #198

You are welcome oberliner Oct 2013 #199

Ah yes, the "Jews...of all people should know better" bigotry shira Oct 2013 #200

I've encountered that a lot over the years oberliner Oct 2013 #201

And here is a prime example of what I was getting at. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #202

Oh, so Israelis (not Jews) of all people...should have learned from the Holocaust? shira Oct 2013 #203

Israel is the nation treating the Palestinians like sub-humans. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #204

I guess you have to be a Pat Buchanan or David Duke clone (or is that clown) to understand.... shira Oct 2013 #180

Well I wouldn't know. They're more in line with repressive Israeli politics so perhaps R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #184

And yet that doesn't change the fact that they were prevnted from R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #169

There are better ways to get aid delivered but your ISM friends aren't interested.... shira Oct 2013 #181

"And don't pretend you have no idea what I'm writing about." R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #185

Starve who out? Shaktimaan Oct 2013 #206

Not good. n/t Laelth Sep 2013 #53