Israel/Palestine

Violet_Crumble

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23. Hey!

Fri Nov 22, 2013, 06:58 AM

Nov 2013

Last edited Fri Nov 22, 2013, 08:01 AM - Edit history (1)

Yeah, I find every now and again there'll be a thread where the people participating actually contribute some stuff worth reading. This is one of them*

* with one notable exception...

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In the real tally of violence, Palestinians have it much worse. [View all] bravenak Nov 2013 OP

Thank you bravenak libodem Nov 2013 #1

I always root for the underdog. bravenak Nov 2013 #3

I watched a Charlie Rose interview libodem Nov 2013 #7

I hope that this hard line thinking is dying like the Republican Party here at home. bravenak Nov 2013 #107

I hope so, too libodem Nov 2013 #112

That's how I saw it too, through the American eye. I think they're trying to put them on the bravenak Nov 2013 #113

If u really want to know what the IDF is doing, there are 2 Israelis here.... shira Nov 2013 #114

"...a fixed Israeli reflex" oberliner Nov 2013 #2

Yeah, Shira turned me on to Ms.Hass. She's good, huh? bravenak Nov 2013 #4

Found in court to be a liar King_David Nov 2013 #8

oh please she was fined over a decade ago during the second Intifada azurnoir Nov 2013 #11

Decade or whatever King_David Nov 2013 #13

in a trial that was the equivelent of a civil rights worker in the south in 1962 azurnoir Nov 2013 #14

She lied , she's a liar, she was fined King_David Nov 2013 #24

Still more credible than you'll ever be, Dave. n/t Scootaloo Nov 2013 #76

Are you REALLY Bohunk68 Nov 2013 #77

He is very attached to his positions BlueToTheBone Nov 2013 #54

Do you believe every court ruling is fact? Or only ones you agree with? n/t Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #27

This one is fact . King_David Nov 2013 #29

Okay, so it's only the ones you agree with... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #30

No problem but my answer wasn't the same as you said it was King_David Nov 2013 #31

How is asking you a question bullying? Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #32

Hey I see your back to your old self, King_David Nov 2013 #33

Uh, yr the one who did the personal heavying thing... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #38

Well that's your shtick...I don't have anyone on ignore ever King_David Nov 2013 #40

Well, let me start going ahead and ignoring you... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #41

If you click on yr own transparency page King_David Nov 2013 #42

No, Skinner removed that a fair while ago... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #44

Oh ok it's been a while , King_David Nov 2013 #45

no you can not that was removed months ago because people started running 'vanity' threads sbout it azurnoir Nov 2013 #52

K-D, I think I want your job. You're flying all over the world constantly.... shira Nov 2013 #48

I'm a Surgeon and I teach , King_David Nov 2013 #66

Ah you're a doctor I see azurnoir Nov 2013 #69

No , love it there tho King_David Nov 2013 #70

Not Toronto though? No sadly I'm not- close though Minnesota azurnoir Nov 2013 #71

Toronto is just like any other US city King_David Nov 2013 #72

Have you noticed that you have been moved away from the OP? R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2013 #123

"stormfront-like tactics" does not say "identical to stormfront" delrem Nov 2013 #127

Oh, god, why are you trying to make this a bullying cry fest? R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2013 #122

I think he must be joking. bravenak Nov 2013 #124

What does that mean King_David Nov 2013 #133

So now she can't write an opinion piece. bravenak Nov 2013 #16

Anyone can write an opinion piece King_David Nov 2013 #25

Was it a kangaroo court? bravenak Nov 2013 #34

It was an Israeli court King_David Nov 2013 #36

Was she allowed to prove her case by having her witnesses? If not, kangaroo court it is. bravenak Nov 2013 #37

Israeli courts found her guilty King_David Nov 2013 #39

Bizarre? bravenak Nov 2013 #43

Court rulings true King_David Nov 2013 #46

So no answer then. bravenak Nov 2013 #47

She lied she was fined King_David Nov 2013 #49

Oh, I see what you're trying to do here. bravenak Nov 2013 #50

It's actually not a complicated issue King_David Nov 2013 #55

What did the jury of her peers have to say? bravenak Nov 2013 #57

We talking Israel here not her neighbors to the north south or east nt King_David Nov 2013 #65

So.? bravenak Nov 2013 #125

Hass was flat busted when TV video evidence proved she lied. n/t shira Nov 2013 #80

Link to the video? bravenak Nov 2013 #126

There was TV video evidence at that time in 2001. shira Nov 2013 #134

So no video. :( bravenak Nov 2013 #135

I've shown you video of other things and you claimed bullshit... shira Nov 2013 #136

They've have 12 years to put it on the Internet. bravenak Nov 2013 #137

But you've already made your mind up, no matter what video exists... shira Nov 2013 #138

Yeah, right. I would be convinced if I saw the video,and it did not show anything untoward occurring bravenak Nov 2013 #139

she said a bunch of Hebron settlers kicked the corpse of a Palestinian during the second Intifada azurnoir Nov 2013 #67

I tried once to have a discussion BlueToTheBone Nov 2013 #56

I know what you mean. bravenak Nov 2013 #58

You've more patience than I. BlueToTheBone Nov 2013 #59

It was indeed. You should read it sometime. bravenak Nov 2013 #60

You'd think he was from Eygpt floating BlueToTheBone Nov 2013 #61

Rofl is absolutely permitted. bravenak Nov 2013 #62

True and none of this changes the fact BlueToTheBone Nov 2013 #63

I think the best thing we can do is keep pointing it out. bravenak Nov 2013 #64

You guys are talking about me as if I'm not here.. King_David Nov 2013 #68

I just missed you. bravenak Nov 2013 #73

Shalom bravenak.... Israeli Nov 2013 #74

Thank you very much. bravenak Nov 2013 #75

Amira Hass isn't really a post-zionist.... shira Nov 2013 #79

she is shira ... Israeli Nov 2013 #81

I thought post-zionists were strong 2-state advocates. Hass is not. shira Nov 2013 #84

some are shira ....some are not ... Israeli Nov 2013 #86

Some post-zionists are anti-zionists? Like Gideon Levy? shira Nov 2013 #89

I know your confused shira .... Israeli Nov 2013 #104

Can't say I'm surprised to see u defending 1-state advocates... shira Nov 2013 #109

Interesting and "true" article for anyone King_David Nov 2013 #111

As King_David says, "It was an Israeli court". delrem Nov 2013 #128

They care not for justice, equality, diplomacy or much else I associate with the left. bravenak Nov 2013 #129

Good that bibi didn't get his war - but he's still strutting about like a pouter pigeon. delrem Nov 2013 #130

I like Kerry in this position a lot better. Clinton was okay, but Kerry doesn't put up with Bibi's bravenak Nov 2013 #131

Yup. an optimistic turn. delrem Nov 2013 #132

She has her moments oberliner Nov 2013 #9

I read Reporting From Ramallah. It's very good... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #15

She gets people to stop and think about what's going on. bravenak Nov 2013 #19

Yeah, she was one of the first people I read things about the conflict from... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #26

If I can get my hands on a paperback I will. bravenak Nov 2013 #35

No progressive for peace & against violence should be endorsing Hass.... shira Nov 2013 #83

In defense of Amira Hass .... Israeli Nov 2013 #87

Hass supports rock-throwing at Israelis/Jews because she considers.... shira Nov 2013 #90

Produce with a link what you believe demonstrates this poster cheered on rock throwing to Jefferson23 Nov 2013 #91

Bravenak can tell you herself that she agreed with Hass' article about stone-throwing.... shira Nov 2013 #92

NO, I asked you, you're the one making tha accusations..so produce the link Jefferson23 Nov 2013 #93

Google it yourself or ask Bravenak. You're not worth my time. n/t shira Nov 2013 #94

That you decided not to back up your claims speaks volumes about your intentions Jefferson23 Nov 2013 #95

No, it means you're lazy. It took me seconds to find the thread... shira Nov 2013 #96

The responsibility belongs to you to produce what you believe demonstrates your claim Jefferson23 Nov 2013 #97

Her support for rock-throwing @ civilians is all over that thread. Don't be lazy... shira Nov 2013 #98

This is about YOUR opinion, that you believe you possess credibility on the I/P subject, well Jefferson23 Nov 2013 #99

If you really want to know the score, read that thread.... shira Nov 2013 #100

I already answered you, stop repeating yourself. Your claims against bravenak are false. Jefferson23 Nov 2013 #115

I didn't say that. bravenak Nov 2013 #101

You made a lot of contradictory statements. It's why I kept pressing for consistency... shira Nov 2013 #102

Your posts are like ransom notes to me. bravenak Nov 2013 #103

You say one thing, then another. I'm trying to give you a way out.... shira Nov 2013 #105

That's because I won't help to to call children terrorists. bravenak Nov 2013 #106

Simple questions.... shira Nov 2013 #108

Do we really have to do this again? bravenak Nov 2013 #110

I know u said yr against children getting hurt, but children have died due to stone-throwing... shira Nov 2013 #116

It'd not my job to condemn every single act of violence committed by whomever you choose bravenak Nov 2013 #117

okay, that's an answer. sort of... shira Nov 2013 #118

I have no idea what's going on in any of your videos. They're clips and in a language I don't speak bravenak Nov 2013 #119

Right. Don't believe your eyes. Obviously, the people in those vehicles.... shira Nov 2013 #120

You're just trying to derail the thread. bravenak Nov 2013 #121

Where's the rest of the article? Did u actually read the whole thing? shira Nov 2013 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author bravenak Nov 2013 #6

How to bypass the paywall delrem Nov 2013 #10

Thanks for the tip... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #17

hey there! delrem Nov 2013 #21

Hey! Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #23

WATCH: IDF detains 5 to 9-year-old Palestinian children in Qaddum azurnoir Nov 2013 #12

This is scary. bravenak Nov 2013 #18

Scarier than that. delrem Nov 2013 #20

This is why I oppose the idea of calling children terrorists. bravenak Nov 2013 #22

More info about the kids azurnoir Nov 2013 #51

I think this is very sad and I believe the us is in part to blame. bravenak Nov 2013 #53

How any soldier can sleep at night after conducting themselves this way is beyond me. Jefferson23 Nov 2013 #28

That's like saying more southern slaveowners should have stopped owning slaves Scootaloo Nov 2013 #78

When the objective is to inject fear in a child of 5 years old, you're a participant Jefferson23 Nov 2013 #82

Absolutely Scootaloo Nov 2013 #85

Agreed, and I did not intend to suggest you were excusing their conduct. Jefferson23 Nov 2013 #88