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Thu Jul 31, 2014, 04:19 AM Jul 2014

Will there be peace if Palestinians lay down their arms? [View all]

The world expects millions of people in Gaza and the West Bank to happily and quietly live under occupation. While laying down arms is a positive step towards peace, it is not enough to end this conflict.

Written with Dr. Marc Gopin

In the past few weeks the pro-Israel pundits have been recycling an argument that runs as follows:

If Palestinians were to lay down their guns tomorrow, there would be no war. If Israel were to lay down its arms, there would be no Israel.


This argument is based on two false assumptions about Palestinians. The first statement is based on the false assumption that the only impediment to peace is Palestinian violence, and the second is based on the assumption that the Palestinians’ main goal is to eradicate the Jews. The argument also rests on the false premise that Israelis are completely peaceful. Palestinian poet Mahmoud Darwish answered this argument in one of his poems.

The accusation is that I hate Jews.
It’s not comfortable that they show me as a devil
and an enemy of Israel.
I am not a lover of Israel, of course.
I have no reason to be. But I don’t hate Jews
I will continue to humanize even the enemy
The first teacher who taught me Hebrew was a Jew.
The first love affair in my life was with a Jewish girl.
The first judge who sent me to prison was a Jewish woman.
So from the beginning, I didn’t see Jews as devils or angels,
but as human beings.


Many Palestinians share Mahmoud Darwish’s opinion. They don’t hate Jews. They live, work and maintain friendships with Jews and Israelis, and have had good and bad experiences. But the argument is a cheap scare tactic. It demonizes Palestinians and equates them with Nazis. This kind of fear is counterproductive, and fuels the conflict rather than offers constructive solutions.

We – Marc and Aziz – have been working together for six years. Marc is Jewish, Aziz is Palestinian. Neither of us believes for a moment that one of us is waiting to kill the other.

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No, Israel can't afford to live in peace with the Palestinians. DetlefK Jul 2014 #1
Except. Shaktimaan Aug 2014 #20
Except... DetlefK Aug 2014 #34
The odds? Around 100%. Shaktimaan Aug 2014 #44
Not whilst there is a right-wing government......... kayecy Aug 2014 #46
Really? Shaktimaan Aug 2014 #48
Not this one, and you haven't said who would evacuate Arial.... kayecy Aug 2014 #49
There are two sides. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #2
You need to OP it, JD ReRe Jul 2014 #4
I'd probably not get any answers. What I am saying does not JDPriestly Jul 2014 #5
Maybe you're right... ReRe Jul 2014 #8
Had no idea who E.F. Hutton was. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #15
I play the piano too... ReRe Aug 2014 #17
a lot of that is probably persuasive to casual observers... shaayecanaan Jul 2014 #9
This war is about the tunnels that Palestinians dug out from under the border JDPriestly Aug 2014 #14
But 1952 was not the start of this conflict, was it?....... kayecy Aug 2014 #30
The Israelis killed about 500 Arab returnees a year shaayecanaan Aug 2014 #31
Palistinians hold the key to peace?!? whosinpower1 Aug 2014 #12
Look at this list of Palestinian terrorist acts over the years. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #13
As you well know, there are two sides whosinpower1 Aug 2014 #16
Both sides need to work toward peace. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #18
come on now whosinpower1 Aug 2014 #19
And Palestinian pride. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #28
Why do you do that? whosinpower1 Aug 2014 #40
Winners and losers Miumer Aug 2014 #35
"often even genocide is inevitable" Dragonfli Aug 2014 #36
Evil Miumer Aug 2014 #37
I suppose Darfur would be an example of that Dragonfli Aug 2014 #38
Me too Miumer Aug 2014 #41
Thank you for your thoughtful answers Dragonfli Aug 2014 #42
Public opinion has very little effect - sorry to say so whosinpower1 Aug 2014 #43
You are underestimating the Israeli civilians. Miumer Aug 2014 #45
Public opinion wasn't strong enough to..... kayecy Aug 2014 #47
You dont battle agression with purblic opinion while being agressive yourself. Miumer Aug 2014 #50
I agree with you but...... kayecy Aug 2014 #51
between a rock and a hard place Miumer Aug 2014 #52
Backwards. Shaktimaan Aug 2014 #22
Must be embarrassing then whosinpower1 Aug 2014 #25
Well. Shaktimaan Aug 2014 #27
Causality whosinpower1 Aug 2014 #33
could not agree with you more .... Israeli Aug 2014 #58
outstanding Shaktimaan.... Israeli Aug 2014 #56
The only problem I see Aerows Aug 2014 #39
No ann--- Jul 2014 #3
And Israelis feel that that is what the Palestinians want. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #6
But... Shaktimaan Aug 2014 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Aug 2014 #53
That's true too. In part. Shaktimaan Aug 2014 #54
you cant be serious !! Israeli Aug 2014 #57
The answer... ReRe Jul 2014 #7
With a cessation of rocket attacks the blockade can be relaxed hack89 Jul 2014 #10
No. But it's not a one-step process, is it? Igel Jul 2014 #11
There will be Palestinian subjugation, which is really Israel's goal, don't you think? ProgressiveMuslim Aug 2014 #21
shalom/salaam ProgressiveMuslim .... Israeli Aug 2014 #24
If the Palestinians laid down their arms azurnoir Aug 2014 #26
Yup .... Israeli Aug 2014 #29
Short answer, yes intaglio Aug 2014 #32
There are some serious misrepresentations in this. aranthus Aug 2014 #55
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