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57. you cant be serious !!
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 12:42 AM
Aug 2014

"" Most Israelis "" !!!!!!

"" "" Many Israeli peaceniks, and myself, were cheering for them. "" "" !!!!!!!

Speak for yourself please !!

"" while the right wing's predictions were all accurate. ""

Ahhh ....so Arik Sharon was a Leftist during the disingagement

...........


After that we spent a confused year and a half between the declaration of Sharon’s intent and its actual implementation on the ground, a constant dilemma on how should Israeli peace seekers react. It was clear to us that Sharon felt the need to take such a step because of the momentum gained by the Geneva Initiative, which was pushing for a comprehensive Israeli-Palestinian peace, and because of the letter of the pilots who refused to bomb Palestinian cities as well as the objectors from the elite Sayeret Matkal commandos. From his viewpoint , as a man who had commanded armies and sent soldiers to die in battle, he was ready to sacrifice the settlements in the Gaza Strip in order to deflect the pressures and get a free hand to continue expanding settlements in the West Bank . He did all he could to make the evacuation of 7,000 settlers from the Gaza Strip into a difficult, long-drawn and traumatic event, so as to make the evacuation of hundreds of thousands from the West Bank seem an absolute impossibility.

Knowing all of that - and still, faced with the choice between Sharon succeeding in implementing the "Gaza disengagement " and the possibility of the settlers thwarting the plan and the settlements in Gaza remaining intact, I found myself walking in a lukewarm Peace Now demonstration called to support the Disengagement and support Sharon. And there were many occasions on that year when I stood at roadsides and junctions to distribute to drivers the pro-Disengagement Blue Ribbons, to counter the settlers’ Orange Ribbons.

At the end of 2005 Sharon split the Likud and founded the Kadima Party which was intended to achieve "The Big Bang of Israeli politics". In the evening I sat with friends and heard TV commentators praise Sharon’s brilliant move and predict that Kadima led by Sharon would win the 2006 elections and garner forty or even fifty seats and that Sharon would bestride the political system like a colossus for many years to come. We were far from happy at the prospect. Would Sharon have managed to actually bring about all that, and how would he have used his power? Would he have become the Israeli de Gaulle? We will never know.


http://adam-keller2.blogspot.co.il/2014/01/sharon-and-me.html
No, Israel can't afford to live in peace with the Palestinians. DetlefK Jul 2014 #1
Except. Shaktimaan Aug 2014 #20
Except... DetlefK Aug 2014 #34
The odds? Around 100%. Shaktimaan Aug 2014 #44
Not whilst there is a right-wing government......... kayecy Aug 2014 #46
Really? Shaktimaan Aug 2014 #48
Not this one, and you haven't said who would evacuate Arial.... kayecy Aug 2014 #49
There are two sides. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #2
You need to OP it, JD ReRe Jul 2014 #4
I'd probably not get any answers. What I am saying does not JDPriestly Jul 2014 #5
Maybe you're right... ReRe Jul 2014 #8
Had no idea who E.F. Hutton was. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #15
I play the piano too... ReRe Aug 2014 #17
a lot of that is probably persuasive to casual observers... shaayecanaan Jul 2014 #9
This war is about the tunnels that Palestinians dug out from under the border JDPriestly Aug 2014 #14
But 1952 was not the start of this conflict, was it?....... kayecy Aug 2014 #30
The Israelis killed about 500 Arab returnees a year shaayecanaan Aug 2014 #31
Palistinians hold the key to peace?!? whosinpower1 Aug 2014 #12
Look at this list of Palestinian terrorist acts over the years. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #13
As you well know, there are two sides whosinpower1 Aug 2014 #16
Both sides need to work toward peace. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #18
come on now whosinpower1 Aug 2014 #19
And Palestinian pride. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #28
Why do you do that? whosinpower1 Aug 2014 #40
Winners and losers Miumer Aug 2014 #35
"often even genocide is inevitable" Dragonfli Aug 2014 #36
Evil Miumer Aug 2014 #37
I suppose Darfur would be an example of that Dragonfli Aug 2014 #38
Me too Miumer Aug 2014 #41
Thank you for your thoughtful answers Dragonfli Aug 2014 #42
Public opinion has very little effect - sorry to say so whosinpower1 Aug 2014 #43
You are underestimating the Israeli civilians. Miumer Aug 2014 #45
Public opinion wasn't strong enough to..... kayecy Aug 2014 #47
You dont battle agression with purblic opinion while being agressive yourself. Miumer Aug 2014 #50
I agree with you but...... kayecy Aug 2014 #51
between a rock and a hard place Miumer Aug 2014 #52
Backwards. Shaktimaan Aug 2014 #22
Must be embarrassing then whosinpower1 Aug 2014 #25
Well. Shaktimaan Aug 2014 #27
Causality whosinpower1 Aug 2014 #33
could not agree with you more .... Israeli Aug 2014 #58
outstanding Shaktimaan.... Israeli Aug 2014 #56
The only problem I see Aerows Aug 2014 #39
No ann--- Jul 2014 #3
And Israelis feel that that is what the Palestinians want. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #6
But... Shaktimaan Aug 2014 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Aug 2014 #53
That's true too. In part. Shaktimaan Aug 2014 #54
you cant be serious !! Israeli Aug 2014 #57
The answer... ReRe Jul 2014 #7
With a cessation of rocket attacks the blockade can be relaxed hack89 Jul 2014 #10
No. But it's not a one-step process, is it? Igel Jul 2014 #11
There will be Palestinian subjugation, which is really Israel's goal, don't you think? ProgressiveMuslim Aug 2014 #21
shalom/salaam ProgressiveMuslim .... Israeli Aug 2014 #24
If the Palestinians laid down their arms azurnoir Aug 2014 #26
Yup .... Israeli Aug 2014 #29
Short answer, yes intaglio Aug 2014 #32
There are some serious misrepresentations in this. aranthus Aug 2014 #55
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