Gun Control & RKBA

IronGate

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47. Why?

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Mon Sep 1, 2014, 03:31 PM

Sep 2014

What special reason does this thread deserve to be pinned?

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45 Facts that challenge the NRA's talking points [View all] SecularMotion Aug 2014 OP

Do you have any thoughts of your own or is this a google dump AGAIN Lurks Often Aug 2014 #1

Do you have any comments on these google dumps? nt. IronGate Aug 2014 #2

would you like to have a nice discussion on your post? Duckhunter935 Aug 2014 #3

Now, try this wonderful spinach! Eleanors38 Aug 2014 #25

you are a bad person Duckhunter935 Aug 2014 #26

I got my van aligned yesterday! The front end was O.K., too Eleanors38 Aug 2014 #4

FYI Head Hunting going on DonP Aug 2014 #21

#2 takes an existential approach I find perceptive; Eleanors38 Aug 2014 #24

WOW Duckhunter935 Aug 2014 #27

question Duckhunter935 Aug 2014 #29

Yes they can, IronGate Aug 2014 #32

Thanks Duckhunter935 Aug 2014 #33

Our dear Canadians legacy lives on. ileus Sep 2014 #58

Aww, isn't that cute. beevul Aug 2014 #5

That's correct. States with more gun laws have lower rates of gun deaths SecularMotion Aug 2014 #7

Lower rates perhaps, but also the lions share of gun deaths. beevul Aug 2014 #8

They are not incorrect SecularMotion Aug 2014 #10

TWO replies in one of your Duckhunter935 Aug 2014 #13

Sorry, they are. Straw Man Aug 2014 #14

That's correct. States with more gun laws have lower rates of gun deaths SecularMotion Aug 2014 #15

Which does not equal a lower raw number. blueridge3210 Aug 2014 #16

Which is not what the headlines you posted say. Straw Man Aug 2014 #17

Are you disputing the fact that states with more gun laws have lower rates of gun deaths? SecularMotion Aug 2014 #18

No. Straw Man Aug 2014 #20

There's a t.v. ad out which has 2 computers next to Eleanors38 Aug 2014 #30

I like those ads Duckhunter935 Aug 2014 #34

By what measure? clffrdjk Aug 2014 #36

Are you disputing that your OP says "gun deaths" and not "rates of gun deaths"? n/t krispos42 Aug 2014 #39

Are you disputing that states with more gun laws have far more gun violence than states that don't? beevul Aug 2014 #40

Care to cite your source for those maps and what makes you think they represent Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2014 #35

Here ya go. beevul Aug 2014 #42

So, you'll believe that any map accurately represents what the creators intend for it to represent? Dark n Stormy Knight Sep 2014 #55

I believe it accurately contradicts the inferences intended by the use of "rates". beevul Sep 2014 #60

More Google. blueridge3210 Aug 2014 #6

Would you care to discuss your post? Duckhunter935 Aug 2014 #9

Number 4 is inaccurate. Jenoch Aug 2014 #11

Oh, we are surely doomed now. An anonymous Facebook post listing assorted lies and distortions. NYC_SKP Aug 2014 #12

Lies, damned lies and statistics. "Gun deaths"? Perhaps but not violent crime. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2014 #19

Where can I find the NRA talking points? Hangingon Aug 2014 #22

I have asked many times Duckhunter935 Aug 2014 #28

Fox News is a good place to start. You'll hear a lot of NRA talking points there. Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2014 #37

Which of those are not true? beevul Aug 2014 #43

I think most of them are untrue or simplistic and not valid arguments against gun Dark n Stormy Knight Sep 2014 #57

Lacking any objective measure... beevul Sep 2014 #61

Looks to be closer than responses to earlier request Hangingon Aug 2014 #45

Yeah, they do consitute NRA talking points. Unless you're going by some definition of talking points Dark n Stormy Knight Sep 2014 #56

45 "facts"....LOL ileus Aug 2014 #23

Shhh, can't discuss the facts about .45s. Eleanors38 Aug 2014 #31

Gun deaths includes gun suicides acalix Aug 2014 #38

Regarding the numbers of "gun deaths", points 1 and 2 in your excerpt... krispos42 Aug 2014 #41

And I love point #4... krispos42 Aug 2014 #44

Request to have this thread pinned SecularMotion Sep 2014 #46

Why? IronGate Sep 2014 #47

You're expecting a reply? blueridge3210 Sep 2014 #48

I would not nt Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #50

No, not at all, IronGate Sep 2014 #51

it would be courteous Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #49

You haven't even posted it in your own forum. Post and Pin it there. DonP Sep 2014 #52

I like that idea nt Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #53

When... beevul Sep 2014 #54

This facebook post just reinforces our need to continue our civil rights right. ileus Sep 2014 #59