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gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
7. end the drug war
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 12:25 AM
Nov 2016

take away their guns by taking away their money. Treating addiction as a health issue instead criminal issue. That would save lives in other ways too. Heroin kills more people than guns or cars.
Laws only affect the law abiding. While background checks are good in principle, but do you really think a fence is going to do a NICS check for the local undocumented pharmacy or gangster? No.

When you look at the most violent cities in the world, two or three being in the US, all have these in common
Drug gangs
Extreme poverty
Political corruption
Extremes in wealth inequality

Gun ownership rates in Norway, Canada, Iceland, and Switzerland isn't that much lower than ours. Some studies put Finland higher than us. They don't have gang battles do they? It isn't like Chicago or even the Merrylands, a suburb of Sydney that has a lot of drive bys. The bright side of Australian drive by shootings is that they often use homemade submachine guns, that hit nobody.

I have a huge list of parts of a solution which would piss off both parties, and most of it having to be done locally. It would also piss off the booze lobby, private prison lobby, drug testing lobby, and maybe even pot growers who don't like to pay taxes. The first is get rid of zoning laws that prevent walkable neighborhoods. That would also create local jobs, maybe even urban agriculture.

That is just as true in someplace in Brazil, which has stricter laws than the UK, as it does Baltimore and Detroit. Brazil doesn't have a "gun culture" like the
US, Canada, Iceland, Norway, or Czech Republic.
I found this clip by a German sociologist.

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An Alienated Rural Democrat's plea from 2004 [View all] virginia mountainman Nov 2016 OP
What should we do? HassleCat Nov 2016 #1
Absolutely... virginia mountainman Nov 2016 #4
end the drug war gejohnston Nov 2016 #7
Welcome to DU! petronius Nov 2016 #2
I think you did welcome me! virginia mountainman Nov 2016 #6
I remember reading this when you first posted it. appal_jack Nov 2016 #3
He is running on gun control in the 5th District?!?!?! virginia mountainman Nov 2016 #5
Easily one of my favorite posts on gun rights. Kang Colby Nov 2016 #8
It will not work as long as Democrats believe this about others. oneshooter Nov 2016 #9
Great post, then and now... Eleanors38 Nov 2016 #10
All this talk about the changing demographics gejohnston Nov 2016 #11
Right on both accounts. "You don't have to sell your ideas..." Eleanors38 Nov 2016 #12
Thank you!! I was looking for your post in the old DU archives, but wasn't able to find it. benEzra Dec 2016 #13
Thank you... Puha Ekapi_2 Dec 2016 #14
Welcome to the group discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2016 #15
Nailed it DashOneBravo Dec 2016 #16
Applegate just lost to Issa by only 1,982 votes. pablo_marmol Dec 2016 #17
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