The Truth about Fast & Furious

[gejohnston]

124. I can reason under uncertainty quite well

I can also set aside my opinion of Issa and read the supporting evidence, which is something you can't do. I don't know about any teabaggers, but I wouldn't get riled up at all if they prove their case because it doesn't have a thing to do with guns or gun laws. It was about a Bush appointed AUSA not doing his job and Voth not going to another US Attorney or even to a local DA. You keep mentioning loony conspiracy theories, but I have not said I supported one. What are these theories? Other than saying Voth is a fuck up and is covering his ass, I don't believe I said anything that could reasonably be described as loony.

Anyway, what I do know is that the evidence available supports Eban, and that Issa and Grassley have been routinely cherry-picking the evidence to build a misleading case.

no it doesn't. It contradicts Eban, even the documents she quotes from when you read the entire document.

Let's not forget, Issa is on the record (on your favorite pro-gun TV network) supporting the conspiracy theory that this whole thing was a ploy to pass gun control laws.

I don't have cable, and I wouldn't waste my time with Faux, I'm guessing that is what you are referring to, so I don't know what Issa said. Someone on Pacifica might have said the ATF was working with the CIA helping one of the cartels for all I know. It is a simple case of Voth and Newell being fuck ups, getting caught, and retaliating against the whistle blowers, no more no less. Happens in corporations on a regular basis. Doesn't have a thing to with Holder, gun laws or anything else. That being the case, I fail to see why you are defending Voth, Newell, and Bush appointee Hurley.

No, I haven't read the entire Issa-Grassley report (and neither have you), but what I did read is just the same distortions and half-truths that I've come to expect from the GOP. I'm not going to read all 300 (or whatever) pages of this junk, just on the off chance that some key fact is hidden on page 189.

Actually I have read the whole thing, and all of the supporting documents, including the ones Eban cherry picked in her article.