Gun Control & RKBA

discntnt_irny_srcsm

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52. re: "...I am not going to say that..."

Tue Sep 18, 2012, 01:28 AM

Sep 2012

...the best-trained military in the world can't or won't be used against our own citizens..."

There are all kinds of Americans. James Holmes is an American, McVeigh was an American... All I'm saying here is that these folks are not the norm.

Will the federal government ever use its might to oppress the people? Probably, since it already has. I could list instances but we all know them. I don't see such events being pervasive or long maintained.

This sub-thread started with samsingh saying that American civilians don't stand a chance against domestic military might. Myself and others feel differently as we've said. I don't see such an action being backed by a majority of our rank and file military folk.

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