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20. Yes, the CAS decision was flawed with respect to the facts.
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 12:38 AM
Aug 2012

Order of events & summary:

1) The original study by the IAAF made a specific physiological claim and the IAAF banned Pistorius from competition.
2) Pistorius appeals to the CAS and commissions a study by Hugh Herr and Peter Wyland to study the Pistorius' blade running.
3) CAS finds that the IAAF's specific physiological claim was not supported by the new research and the ban was overturned.
4) AFTER the hearing the research gets published.
5) Wyland, the main author of the research used to unban Pistorius, goes on the record saying Pistorius has a 12 second advantage. The research on the mechanical advantage (as opposed to the physiological advantage) of the blades was not presented.

So what went wrong?

The CAS decision was based on a purposely incomplete depiction of the research. There were some significant flaws in the research methods. The specific physiological claim the IAAF was refuted by measuring Pistorius' running at sub-sprinting speeds. When compared to other sprinters, he was 2.7 standard deviations better. The research then included sub-elite and elite distance runners from the literature to the comparisons. Since they were measuring running economy (how well a runner uses oxygen), it was a major flaw to include distance runners. Sprinters do not train this physiological system while distance runners do, so the average value in the comparison group dropped significantly and resulted in less of an advantage for Pistorius. Essentially, Pistorius was un-banned because his running economy (a measure of non-sprint running) wasn't that much better than distance runners. The research says that Pistorius, a sprinter, uses less oxygen than elite distance runners and then concludes he's no different than other runners! They do completely different training!

And that's just the PHYSIOLOGICAL differences. When Wyland considered the mechanical advantages of the blades he initially estimated a 12 second advantage (other scientists have later estimated it in the 6-7s range). Wyland was not at the hearing and none of this was presented to the CAS. Herr had no interest in presenting any data that would result in the ban remaining. After all, independent of this research, Herr is getting paid by Pistorius' blade company for blade design work. He has every incentive in the world to suppress pro-ban data.

You're interested in the facts and say you're willing to change your mind based on them. Well there are the facts.

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he qualified, right? zbdent Aug 2012 #1
He is in the semis tomorrow. But... El Supremo Aug 2012 #2
so, with the "unfair advantage" ... he didn't meet the standards in 2008, like everybody else did .. zbdent Aug 2012 #3
It seems the people "The Court of Arbitration" best qualified for these type of decisions JonLP24 Aug 2012 #5
You are way too "accepting". El Supremo Aug 2012 #6
JonLP24 has a point though... Auggie Aug 2012 #7
I think it is a big controversy. El Supremo Aug 2012 #8
sprinters from across the globe are lining up to have their legs removed in order to replace them.. frylock Aug 2012 #34
I'm not sure what you're referring to JonLP24 Aug 2012 #10
Clueless El Supremo Aug 2012 #11
Am I any more clueless than you? JonLP24 Aug 2012 #12
Ooh! I got some emotion from you! El Supremo Aug 2012 #13
I found some links that detail their findings JonLP24 Aug 2012 #14
As Upton (ugh!) said, where do you draw the line? El Supremo Aug 2012 #15
Well they said JonLP24 Aug 2012 #16
Yes, the CAS decision was flawed with respect to the facts. mathematic Aug 2012 #20
I read the PDF JonLP24 Aug 2012 #22
From the research that was used to unban him mathematic Aug 2012 #23
Thanks for the info JonLP24 Aug 2012 #26
The researchers are biased and posing the wrong comparison. Eddie Haskell Aug 2012 #28
If that should be the question JonLP24 Aug 2012 #29
Physically impossible? Eddie Haskell Aug 2012 #31
I imagine it would be like using stilts JonLP24 Aug 2012 #32
Probably not.. Upton Aug 2012 #4
Vehicles aren't prosthetics, and I strongly doubt he considers himself "disabled." (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #18
I think situations such as this bear review on a case by case basis. bluedigger Aug 2012 #9
Several years of arguments in the track world about it point to "yes." (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #17
Of course he should. madinmaryland Aug 2012 #19
That ain't an able body? Iggo Aug 2012 #21
If running on blades is physically easier than running on legs rocktivity Aug 2012 #24
"The able-bodied Olympics"? KamaAina Aug 2012 #25
What's next an iron fisted boxer? Eddie Haskell Aug 2012 #27
He may have an advantage, but he is still damn fast. chelsea0011 Aug 2012 #30
prosthetics are different -KittyKat- Aug 2012 #33
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