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intaglio

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20. I have deliberately avoided saying something "unique and peculiar"

Reply to rug (Reply #19)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 05:01 PM

Nov 2013

I have stated, again and again, that this discussion concerns the relationship between faiths and child abuse and specifically that Christianity is not alone in the problems raised by the relationship between child abuse and the attitude of both religious leadership and holy teaching.

You however have insisted that this either become a discussion of specifically the CSA problem in the wider world or that, somehow, the existence of CSA elsewhere excuses those who claim moral authority and their cover-ups, or participation in, child abuse.

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Religiously enabled Child Sexual Abuse is not just a Christian problem [View all] intaglio Nov 2013 OP

not limited to religious leaders.. pipoman Nov 2013 #1

This post is specifically about one area of the child abuse problem intaglio Nov 2013 #3

In each of the cases I cited pipoman Nov 2013 #8

Please check my post #7 on response to rug intaglio Nov 2013 #10

Also a problem especially for those who are convinced skepticscott Nov 2013 #12

The difference is skepticscott Nov 2013 #6

As stated above.. pipoman Nov 2013 #9

Which does not address my point skepticscott Nov 2013 #11

This is true. rug Nov 2013 #2

Check my reply #3 n/t intaglio Nov 2013 #4

Ok. rug Nov 2013 #5

In this case it is the reinforcement of trust intaglio Nov 2013 #7

+1. It will be interesting to see what kind of a response you get, if at all. cleanhippie Nov 2013 #15

Or maybe I'll just make some indirect commoents about you to another poster. rug Nov 2013 #16

Turkey is fitting. cleanhippie Nov 2013 #21

The case that religious scripture approves child sexual abuse is quite weak. rug Nov 2013 #17

The text with which we are both most familiar is the Bible intaglio Nov 2013 #18

There's no derailment at all. You received a direct response, rug Nov 2013 #19

I have deliberately avoided saying something "unique and peculiar" intaglio Nov 2013 #20

You have, however, implied that there is something about religion that makes it worse than elsewhere rug Nov 2013 #22

No, I have said that those who claim moral superiority intaglio Nov 2013 #24

Do I understand you to say that the incidence of CSA is the same in religions as it outside? rug Nov 2013 #25

I made no claims about incidence or frequency compared to other groups intaglio Nov 2013 #30

I get you. rug Nov 2013 #33

Police seem to do better when their actions are constantly recorded. We ought to adapt that system dimbear Nov 2013 #31

Did you ever hear of a sting tape? rug Nov 2013 #32

I see the value of that, but it's one sided. The constant surveillance works both ways, it dimbear Nov 2013 #34

And yet it's still a HUUUUUGE christian problem. Iggo Nov 2013 #13

I think it is because there is more publicity about the Christian side of things intaglio Nov 2013 #14

Here's how it boils down. Religious folks trust their leaders too much, don't keep tabs on them, dimbear Nov 2013 #23

And why do they trust their leaders too much? skepticscott Nov 2013 #26

No doubt about it. dimbear Nov 2013 #29

No, it's not. Sexual predators, especially the ones who prey on children, Warpy Nov 2013 #27

sorry to say every religion does this DonCoquixote Nov 2013 #28