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In reply to the discussion: Why atheists should listen to Pope Francis [View all]cbayer
(146,218 posts)68. Do you see any evidence that he might represent a change in the RCC?
I know it's hard to be optimistic about this, but I think you refer more to the institution than the individual. Although what we have seen so far has been primarily a change in tone, I think there is the potential for more here.
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This assumes that Atheists have to give as a group in order to be considered generous.
searchingforlight
Dec 2013
#2
It also assumes that atheists identify with a certain group. I'm sure that there are many,
Arkansas Granny
Dec 2013
#4
Apparently, the author (and others) think that atheists themselves are to blame for the bigotry.
trotsky
Dec 2013
#29
In what way whatsoever is my statement showing hatred for atheists.
Fortinbras Armstrong
Dec 2013
#160
Trotsky accused ME of "providing an example of hatred against atheists", and said he expected it.
Fortinbras Armstrong
Dec 2013
#183
To the extent there is a movement, there is, imo, a failure of leadership within it.
cbayer
Dec 2013
#3
Many religious individuals simply cannot see atheism as anything else but another religion.
trotsky
Dec 2013
#11
Opportunities are then being squandered by the other groups mentioned as well, cbayer.
trotsky
Dec 2013
#30
Stunning. Many of us grew up with a secular christmas that you have just proclaimed null and void.
Warren Stupidity
Dec 2013
#97
Grew up celebrating a very american secular form of christmas without 'jesus'
AtheistCrusader
Dec 2013
#109
There is a huge, giant, gaping hole in the logic you're trying to use to bash atheists, cbayer.
trotsky
Dec 2013
#75
Translation of skepticscott's last: "Don't confuse me with facts, my mind is made up"
Fortinbras Armstrong
Dec 2013
#180
True--it's working for self-aggrandizing accommodationist nitwit Alain de Botton
Rob H.
Dec 2013
#89
We have people, here on this board, that don't even recognize him as a bigot...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2013
#33
We should just start banning all of those people (like myself) who think there might be
el_bryanto
Dec 2013
#34
I have a question, did you have the same adulation of Pope Benedict? He and Pope Francis...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2013
#35
Actually, I think its ignorance, they are treating him like he burst from Zeus's head...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2013
#37
Catholicism is a mixture of superstition, bad ideas(mostly Natural Law) and some halfway decent...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2013
#42
A mixture of superstion, bad ideas and Distributionism tells more about the describer than what
rug
Dec 2013
#49
"...is a matter of pharmacy not theology." Ok, so we agree this far....
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2013
#51
The issue is that those uninformed Bishops and other anti-choice advocates...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2013
#55
How is that different from a Christian saying "If only all of those Jews could accept Christ
el_bryanto
Dec 2013
#48
Because I'm not talking about the supernatural beliefs in a general sense...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2013
#50
I thought I covered that with my slamming of the Church's anti-choice and...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2013
#56
Just because you don't like religion and you claim that the Pope is "not a progressive"
Fortinbras Armstrong
Dec 2013
#175
I love Kiva myself - don't have a lot to donate but it's one of my preferred donations when i do.nt
el_bryanto
Dec 2013
#59
Condoms and spread of STDs. Your bigoted homophobic forced-birther and protector of pedophilia
idwiyo
Dec 2013
#64
Well, you could have tried to promote José Nicolás Alessio. An ex-Catholic priest now,
idwiyo
Dec 2013
#69
Yes - but that's something I would do if I weren't a homophobic bigot, right?
el_bryanto
Dec 2013
#70
Why do you keep asking the question when I've answered it? I and (I assume) everybody else
el_bryanto
Dec 2013
#93
No, I don't. This pope is not ignorant. He KNOWS condoms are effective against STDs.
idwiyo
Dec 2013
#72
Pope is a homophobic forced-birther, that's a fact. Unless of cource in the last couple of hours
idwiyo
Dec 2013
#94
That is the opinion of a one issue, intolerant, biased, antagonistic poster. That's the fact.
rug
Dec 2013
#96
Thankfully you do not represent anyone at all, especially anyone who cares about human rights.
rug
Dec 2013
#137
When you tell somebody to stuff it up the hole where it come from, you are making personal attacks.
rug
Dec 2013
#139
Are you defending this pope despite the fact that he is a bigoted homophobic forced-birther
idwiyo
Dec 2013
#140
Come on, idwiyo, you can do it. You're twisting and squirming. Let's have an answer.
rug
Dec 2013
#141
Ah yes, calling out bigotry is in itself bigotry. Thanks for that incredible piece of intellectual
AtheistCrusader
Dec 2013
#108
I'm sure that poster would not be one who says Catholics who do not leave the Church are enabling
rug
Dec 2013
#127
(aside) Hi idwiyo, I've never heard anyone at-risk cite Church doctrine in re: condoms.
pinto
Dec 2013
#85
I've read about missionary (from a number of faiths) impact on health care in Africa, pro and con
pinto
Dec 2013
#90
No, it's not the only factor, but one that is easy to eliminate, and it's up to the pope to do so.
idwiyo
Dec 2013
#131
He could wake up, scratch his ass, walk to the balcony and YELL something about condoms working
AtheistCrusader
Dec 2013
#107
Considering how the rw is apopleptic about his suggestion that poverty is bad, I'd say you're wrong.
rug
Dec 2013
#110
I know words are hard but spectacular means of the nature of a spectacle; impressive or sensational
rug
Dec 2013
#114
You hit the exact reason why so many supporters of this bigot tie themselves into knots
idwiyo
Dec 2013
#134
Yeah, let me pull up a chair and listen to this scumbag tell me I am doing the devil's work
AtheistCrusader
Dec 2013
#99