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In reply to the discussion: No Time For Crime: More Religious Communities Have Lower Rates Of Black, White and Latino Violence [View all]Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)36. The inclusion of unaffiliated was my misunderstanding
The article you posted cites the source; if you follow the link to Hemant Mehta's blog, he has the original document scanned and uploaded as a pdf.
Also, your claim:
... simple statistics shows religious people are more likely to commit crimes--or at least get themselves arrested, tried and found guilty of crimes--than are the non-religious.
is not accurate. What the data actually show is that inmates are more likely to self-identify as religious or non-affiliated than as atheists.
... simple statistics shows religious people are more likely to commit crimes--or at least get themselves arrested, tried and found guilty of crimes--than are the non-religious.
is not accurate. What the data actually show is that inmates are more likely to self-identify as religious or non-affiliated than as atheists.
That's fair enough, but I would also point out that prisoners are more likely to self-identify as believers than any other demographic--Catholic and Protestant in particular. This doesn't say anything as to their religiosity, or what their religious preferences were prior to their incarceration, but, again, sheer demographics suggests a fair portion of them probably self-identified as believers prior to their arrests. Even if they did not, with recidivism rates for federal prisoners hovering between 60-75%, the claim that religiosity reduces crime becomes doubly dubious.
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No Time For Crime: More Religious Communities Have Lower Rates Of Black, White and Latino Violence [View all]
cbayer
Dec 2013
OP
Do they identity as religious once they are arrested and incarcerated or before that?
cbayer
Dec 2013
#4
So when compared with other countries that are similar in other major socioeconomic factors,
trotsky
Dec 2013
#7
I believe what you're asking was never actually a claim made by the person you're replying to.
eqfan592
Dec 2013
#24
What is the source for your claim that the 0.07% includes unaffiliated believers?
Jim__
Dec 2013
#33
First, you're trying to compare apples and oranges without full access to either.
Jim__
Dec 2013
#38
If you're going to continue stuffing words in my mouth, this is going to get rather pointless
Act_of_Reparation
Dec 2013
#44
Interestingly, if you look at previous studies published by this David Briggs fellow...
trotsky
Dec 2013
#17
...his results are internally consistent, so he must be doctoring them?
Donald Ian Rankin
Dec 2013
#18