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In reply to the discussion: No Time For Crime: More Religious Communities Have Lower Rates Of Black, White and Latino Violence [View all]Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)44. If you're going to continue stuffing words in my mouth, this is going to get rather pointless
Yet you claim, based on a 2006 study that didn't look at race/ethnicity, that race ethnicity doesn't matter.
No, I'm not saying race/ethnicity don't matter. I'm saying that whether the study I cited addresses race/ethnicity is irrelevant because it deals specifically with the methodology employed by the Ulmer/Harris paper. What about that aren't you getting?
The Sociological Quarterly is a peer-reviewed journal.
That's fantastic. Unfortunately, it doesn't mean, ipso facto, the conclusions reached by the investigators are, well, conclusive. It means their research meets the standards expected by their peers, and I certainly never accused the authors of performing shoddy science.
Yet you claim that the 2006 article somehow invalidates or overrides the 2013 article.
No, I don't. The article points out a shortcoming in the methodology employed by Ulmer and Harris, demonstrating different results when alternative statistical analyses are used. Does this invalidate Ulmer and Harris' conclusions? NO, especially when one considers their field is non-experimental. Rather, Heaton's criticism is a caveat one must consider when evaluating Ulmer and Harris' conclusions, and is reason enough not to treat their work as the end-all, be-all explanation.
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No Time For Crime: More Religious Communities Have Lower Rates Of Black, White and Latino Violence [View all]
cbayer
Dec 2013
OP
Do they identity as religious once they are arrested and incarcerated or before that?
cbayer
Dec 2013
#4
So when compared with other countries that are similar in other major socioeconomic factors,
trotsky
Dec 2013
#7
I believe what you're asking was never actually a claim made by the person you're replying to.
eqfan592
Dec 2013
#24
What is the source for your claim that the 0.07% includes unaffiliated believers?
Jim__
Dec 2013
#33
First, you're trying to compare apples and oranges without full access to either.
Jim__
Dec 2013
#38
If you're going to continue stuffing words in my mouth, this is going to get rather pointless
Act_of_Reparation
Dec 2013
#44
Interestingly, if you look at previous studies published by this David Briggs fellow...
trotsky
Dec 2013
#17
...his results are internally consistent, so he must be doctoring them?
Donald Ian Rankin
Dec 2013
#18