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cbayer

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96. Are you claiming to be in possession of all the laws of nature?

Mon Jan 27, 2014, 08:52 PM

Jan 2014

Or only the very small amount we as a species know right now?

If we just talk about everything that is known right now, do you think you are even in possession of anything more than a drop of that?

I understand that you reject the concept because it isn't verified by anything you know and you are welcome to shut that door.

But thank goodness than scientists and other thinkers don't shut doors because they do not have evidence of something.

That's irrational. What is rational is to keep looking until there is evidence either for or against something. Hey! That's science!

I already explained to you why the comparison is insulting. It's meant to ridicule and dismiss. This explanation apparently doesn't fit your narrative and you have rejected it.

You will never get where you are trying to go by "pointing out" to those that see things differently that they are irrational and absurd.

I agree with you about literalism and I don't think you are going to find many literalist in this community.

But you are going to find good, thinking, intelligent, rational, sensible progressives and liberals who have religious beliefs.

You can continue to offend them or try to see that you really have much more in common with them than you have differences.

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Pope: Internet Is a 'Gift From God' for Dialogue [View all] cbayer Jan 2014 OP

You think he's a DUer? Squinch Jan 2014 #1

Lol. He might check it out from time to time. cbayer Jan 2014 #2

Clearly he's in the Lounge there! Squinch Jan 2014 #3

He'd probably fit right in there. cbayer Jan 2014 #4

Looks like DU to me pokerfan Jan 2014 #6

. Squinch Jan 2014 #7

Very well done! cbayer Jan 2014 #13

lol Renew Deal Jan 2014 #98

hrmjustin? Renew Deal Jan 2014 #97

I think this is true. Squinch Jan 2014 #99

"the pretense that they alone are valid and absolute" skepticscott Jan 2014 #5

So Al Gore is God. I knew that. Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #8

Only in the Religion Group okasha Jan 2014 #9

okasha, there is no reason to personally smear someone over this. trotsky Jan 2014 #10

Don't confuse skepticscott Jan 2014 #11

Is that a fact? rug Jan 2014 #14

Her behavior was fine thank you. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #15

Oh, you believe skepticscott to be an "alleged" progressive? trotsky Jan 2014 #16

I don't know who she is talking about. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #17

Sorry your alert didn't work out. trotsky Jan 2014 #18

I give you my word I did not alert on you. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #19

I realize you didn't alert on MY post. trotsky Jan 2014 #20

I would not have used alleged progressive. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #21

Do you still think her behavior was "fine"? n/t trotsky Jan 2014 #22

I am trotsky but I am not condeming her. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #24

And back a few steps we go. trotsky Jan 2014 #25

let's stop pretending that we are going to make this group any better. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #26

Ah, I see. trotsky Jan 2014 #27

"And they'll kno-ow skepticscott Jan 2014 #29

Not every believes like I do. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #31

Clearly. trotsky Jan 2014 #37

Spare me! This did not happen in a vacuum. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #39

What personal attacks have I made? trotsky Jan 2014 #41

I am not saying u personally attack people. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #42

Happens to me all the time. trotsky Jan 2014 #44

Fine with me. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #45

I totally support trotsky as a host Goblinmonger Jan 2014 #47

There is a nomination thread. Nominate him. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #49

Not interested. trotsky Jan 2014 #53

if your serious about making this room a better place then volunteer to be a host. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #32

Why, do you think the current hosts aren't doing an adequate job? n/t trotsky Jan 2014 #34

One of the hosts on the non beliver is stepping down. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #36

And why wouldn't you have said that? skepticscott Jan 2014 #28

You get what you give here scott. Yeah I should have not but in but you get what you give here. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #30

And what did I "give" skepticscott Jan 2014 #35

It is not my job to give a pass or not. Juries deal with this. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #38

Baloney skepticscott Jan 2014 #50

Why don't you nominate yourself for hozt or nominate someone. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #52

Oh, I think we can guess who skepticscott Jan 2014 #33

I thought the "alleged progressive" remark was about the pope. arcane1 Jan 2014 #55

Nope. Goblinmonger Jan 2014 #56

The pope is being dishonest and hypocritical skepticscott Jan 2014 #12

She wouldn't have anything else to say if she did. cleanhippie Jan 2014 #23

Um ... Laelth Jan 2014 #40

I don't think he meant that literally. cbayer Jan 2014 #43

If you are right about his intended meaning, then I agree. n/t Laelth Jan 2014 #46

I can't be sure, but that's my read. cbayer Jan 2014 #48

sorry god had nothing to do with it...if anything god was a hinderence to its develpment bowens43 Jan 2014 #51

How is god blatantly anti-science? cbayer Jan 2014 #54

a 'Gift From God' ? amuse bouche Jan 2014 #57

Well, no, phil89 Jan 2014 #58

Er, he didn't mean it literally. cbayer Jan 2014 #59

I'm not so sure phil89 Jan 2014 #60

If you read what he says, he is talking about how the internet making cbayer Jan 2014 #62

Just because you have your own interpretation doesn't make everyone else wrong, cbayer. n/t trotsky Jan 2014 #63

He's the pope phil89 Jan 2014 #65

For many religious believers, life is a gift from god cbayer Jan 2014 #66

Life phil89 Jan 2014 #68

Do you know whether it is or isn't? cbayer Jan 2014 #69

I said phil89 Jan 2014 #71

Who claimed that someone's belief would change it? cbayer Jan 2014 #72

Yeah phil89 Jan 2014 #73

Sorry i was not clear. cbayer Jan 2014 #74

No problem phil89 Jan 2014 #75

See, here's my problem. You are still doing it. cbayer Jan 2014 #77

How is it mocking it to compare it to another belief? Lordquinton Jan 2014 #81

Does anyone believe in them anymore? hrmjustin Jan 2014 #82

People do Lordquinton Jan 2014 #83

Curiosity. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #84

Are there books written about Leprachauns that can be found in most homes in the world? cbayer Jan 2014 #87

Why does the number of people who believe something determine how much respect it gets? trotsky Jan 2014 #88

Ok, so you'v enow established that some beliefs are lesser than others Lordquinton Jan 2014 #89

I don't set those criteria, do you? cbayer Jan 2014 #90

And juries enforce the standards. You don't. trotsky Jan 2014 #91

That's a false comparison and you know that as a former Mod Goblinmonger Jan 2014 #92

This whole sub thread is revealing more about yourslef Lordquinton Jan 2014 #100

And that would be a problem why? cbayer Jan 2014 #101

So you don't hold all beliefs on the same level? Lordquinton Jan 2014 #102

Can you honestly tell me that when you compare the major religions to a belief in leprechauns cbayer Jan 2014 #103

Maybe you should look to yourself first Lordquinton Feb 2014 #104

As has been pointed out to you before skepticscott Feb 2014 #105

It's also mocking skepticscott Jan 2014 #85

faith phil89 Jan 2014 #93

Faith is not irrational by definition, though it may sometimes be irrational. cbayer Jan 2014 #94

Not true phil89 Jan 2014 #95

Are you claiming to be in possession of all the laws of nature? cbayer Jan 2014 #96

So you'll be telling us, then skepticscott Jan 2014 #80

I believe life is a gift from God. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #79

He is also giving thanks for the internet. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #67

And we know this how? Goblinmonger Jan 2014 #61

Vell, vell, Herr Goblinmonger. okasha Jan 2014 #70

Think about that one a little bit more, okasha. trotsky Jan 2014 #86

I've said "Oh, thank God" at times. Or the Irish colloquialism "Oh, Jesus, Mary and Joseph!" pinto Jan 2014 #64

i do the same thing. i'm an atheist but DesertFlower Jan 2014 #76

LOL. Yeah, we are more alike than we are different. pinto Jan 2014 #78