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In reply to the discussion: An interesting graphic about Easter (Dial-up warning large) [View all]Brettongarcia
(2,262 posts)29. Odd for someone associated with the medical profession to denigrate "saving" physical lives
Note that I'm providing examples here of how some Christianity is literally, physically fatal, or damaging. Like the Ms. Copeland case; linked to a megachurch that broadcasts nationwide on TV.
The Copeland case moreover, was not just about state control. It was 1) disseminated from a church; and 2) based not only on occasional church resistance to states; but also 3) on a conviction that faith-healing is more effective than medicine.
That set of note, religious beliefs - which can be found to some degree among MANY evangelist denominations - turned out to literally result in dozens of people getting a potentially serious disease.
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It was certainly clear by the middle of the 2nd century that distinct and conflicting traditions
struggle4progress
Apr 2014
#1
Anyone who has actually read the texts in the last 1900 years is aware of the conflicts.
struggle4progress
Apr 2014
#3
I will now have to spend a long post pointing out the utter deception included in your words.
intaglio
Apr 2014
#4
Congratulations! Now go and ask the other congregants what their memory of the event was
intaglio
Apr 2014
#16
I may have to go ask my church council if we could add ankle-biting to the service somewhere!
struggle4progress
Apr 2014
#55
Well, that sure set you off, didn't it? I suspect there's a simple explanation, too:
struggle4progress
Apr 2014
#13
I thought a bit about whether I could apply your standard to other areas of my life
struggle4progress
Apr 2014
#48
The point of my reply #48 to your #15 was to disagree with your apparent claim in #15
struggle4progress
Apr 2014
#59
You are free to ask the site Administrators to start an Internet Etiquette group if you wish
struggle4progress
Apr 2014
#41
You're free to speak to whomsoever you like, and nothing prevents you from characterizing
struggle4progress
Apr 2014
#14
When people say they are christians, I tend to accept that at face value.
AtheistCrusader
Apr 2014
#88
Inconsistencies in Easter are found not just in texts; but in the church liturgical calendar too
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#17
April 25 is the latest date on which Easter can fall in the Roman Catholic and Protestant religions.
John1956PA
Apr 2014
#38
Your notion that one day can be reliably identified, year after year, ignores astronomical realities
struggle4progress
Apr 2014
#40
Which is to say that our present day Christianity has excuses for not being entirely accurate?
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#44
Since Christianity originated as a Jewish sect, in a small Roman colony,
struggle4progress
Apr 2014
#53
Well actually it would be pretty simple to figure out when pesach was that year.
Warren Stupidity
Apr 2014
#47
The date for Easter is derived from the date for Passover, which is tied to the beginning of spring,
struggle4progress
Apr 2014
#49
Easter is linked only "roughly" to Passover. And too divorced from any actual date of Jesus' death.
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#83
Easter is very often the Sunday after Passover. The main source of difference, IIRC,
struggle4progress
Apr 2014
#84
You do of course known that the Lunar Calendar was rejected by science in favor of the Solar?
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#87
I do so eagerly await your explanation of the scientific basis for our twelve months, including
struggle4progress
Apr 2014
#91
All of which finally allowed 12 nominal "moonths";but out of snyc with the actual moon cycles
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#92
So you were unable to support your claim in #87 regarding the great scientific importance
struggle4progress
Apr 2014
#93
Though most of science, history, use the modern calendar. Perhaps because the question is settled.
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#94
Here's your 1st problem: it's said to be the day Jesus rose. But we are given 30+ different days.
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#64
The so-called "golden numbers" are astronomical in origin, arising from the so-called Metonic cycle
struggle4progress
Apr 2014
#69
All that exact Math - in service of a Biblical account which often contradicts itself.
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#72
We are not astrologers, and no magic would be expected by celebrating Easter on "the right day"
struggle4progress
Apr 2014
#85
So we have no real idea when the resurrection occured;or dozens of conflicting dates for celebration
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#86
When you begin adding up the facts, and first suspect someone is lying to you....
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#19
Many atheists here HAVE supported just walking away from it. But others are concerned about lies.
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#21
Odd for someone associated with the medical profession to denigrate "saving" physical lives
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#29
Another example of a Christian belief being physically fatal: denying medically-advised abortion
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#31
In my findings elsewhere, fatalities from religion are actually HUGE; enough to ban it
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#34
Let's test your hypothesis: which US conflicts since 1776 do you regard as caused by religion?
struggle4progress
Apr 2014
#39
trying to prove or disprove the specific tenets of religious beliefs are just spinning their wheels
AlbertCat
Apr 2014
#61
I don't see any need to be convinced that one version of religion is truer than any other.
AlbertCat
Apr 2014
#62
Ms. cbayer? Ms. cbayer has 129,000 posts on Democratic Underground as of April 20, 2014
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#65
This is to suggest that Ms cbayer is a very major presence in the DU Religion section
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#73