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struggle4progress

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55. I may have to go ask my church council if we could add ankle-biting to the service somewhere!

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 05:17 PM

Apr 2014

It's non-traditional, of course, but it might be an innovative way to attract a certain group of people who don't usually attend!

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An interesting graphic about Easter (Dial-up warning large) [View all] intaglio Apr 2014 OP

It was certainly clear by the middle of the 2nd century that distinct and conflicting traditions struggle4progress Apr 2014 #1

You are aware of the conflicts intaglio Apr 2014 #2

Anyone who has actually read the texts in the last 1900 years is aware of the conflicts. struggle4progress Apr 2014 #3

I will now have to spend a long post pointing out the utter deception included in your words. intaglio Apr 2014 #4

And BOOM goes the dynamite! cleanhippie Apr 2014 #5

Sigh, rug Apr 2014 #6

What do you mean by countless? intaglio Apr 2014 #7

Here: rug Apr 2014 #8

OH FFS, please take your fake outrage to someone who cares about your views intaglio Apr 2014 #9

What outrage? Recycled drivel doesn't warrant outrage. rug Apr 2014 #10

Congratulations! Now go and ask the other congregants what their memory of the event was intaglio Apr 2014 #16

This is where your bias overwhelms your reason and knowledge. rug Apr 2014 #22

I may have to go ask my church council if we could add ankle-biting to the service somewhere! struggle4progress Apr 2014 #55

The Lectionary is also used by the Episcopal Church okasha Apr 2014 #57

Well, that sure set you off, didn't it? I suspect there's a simple explanation, too: struggle4progress Apr 2014 #13

No, I was brought up a High Anglican intaglio Apr 2014 #15

I thought a bit about whether I could apply your standard to other areas of my life struggle4progress Apr 2014 #48

The simple response is that mathematical proofs can be examined and tested intaglio Apr 2014 #56

The point of my reply #48 to your #15 was to disagree with your apparent claim in #15 struggle4progress Apr 2014 #59

Oh, yes, agreed intaglio Apr 2014 #63

Sometimes the best policy after a serious Warren Stupidity Apr 2014 #24

You are free to ask the site Administrators to start an Internet Etiquette group if you wish struggle4progress Apr 2014 #41

It isn't a question of eitiquette. Warren Stupidity Apr 2014 #42

So how do you draw the line? Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #25

Yet, every devout christian I point out the inconsistencies to AtheistCrusader Apr 2014 #11

You're free to speak to whomsoever you like, and nothing prevents you from characterizing struggle4progress Apr 2014 #14

When people say they are christians, I tend to accept that at face value. AtheistCrusader Apr 2014 #88

I've always loved "Ubi Caritas." Beautiful. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2014 #27

I'd be more suspicious is there was close agreement between the gospels goldent Apr 2014 #12

Inconsistencies in Easter are found not just in texts; but in the church liturgical calendar too Brettongarcia Apr 2014 #17

In the year 2038, Easter will fall on April 25. John1956PA Apr 2014 #33

Thanks for correction! Would that be the Orthodox date? Brettongarcia Apr 2014 #37

April 25 is the latest date on which Easter can fall in the Roman Catholic and Protestant religions. John1956PA Apr 2014 #38

Your notion that one day can be reliably identified, year after year, ignores astronomical realities struggle4progress Apr 2014 #40

Which is to say that our present day Christianity has excuses for not being entirely accurate? Brettongarcia Apr 2014 #44

Since Christianity originated as a Jewish sect, in a small Roman colony, struggle4progress Apr 2014 #53

Well actually it would be pretty simple to figure out when pesach was that year. Warren Stupidity Apr 2014 #47

The date for Easter is derived from the date for Passover, which is tied to the beginning of spring, struggle4progress Apr 2014 #49

Easter is linked only "roughly" to Passover. And too divorced from any actual date of Jesus' death. Brettongarcia Apr 2014 #83

Easter is very often the Sunday after Passover. The main source of difference, IIRC, struggle4progress Apr 2014 #84

You do of course known that the Lunar Calendar was rejected by science in favor of the Solar? Brettongarcia Apr 2014 #87

I do so eagerly await your explanation of the scientific basis for our twelve months, including struggle4progress Apr 2014 #91

All of which finally allowed 12 nominal "moonths";but out of snyc with the actual moon cycles Brettongarcia Apr 2014 #92

So you were unable to support your claim in #87 regarding the great scientific importance struggle4progress Apr 2014 #93

Though most of science, history, use the modern calendar. Perhaps because the question is settled. Brettongarcia Apr 2014 #94

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren Stupidity Apr 2014 #52

This reminds me of the Queen's Birthday. goldent Apr 2014 #58

Blather. okasha Apr 2014 #60

Here's your 1st problem: it's said to be the day Jesus rose. But we are given 30+ different days. Brettongarcia Apr 2014 #64

Here"s your problem. okasha Apr 2014 #68

Your problem: Easter Day is often PRESENTED AS the day Christ rose. Brettongarcia Apr 2014 #71

The so-called "golden numbers" are astronomical in origin, arising from the so-called Metonic cycle struggle4progress Apr 2014 #69

All that exact Math - in service of a Biblical account which often contradicts itself. Brettongarcia Apr 2014 #72

Oh, dear. A moment ago, you were objecting that struggle4progress Apr 2014 #75

Oh dear! You think astronomy is quite unrelated to math? Brettongarcia Apr 2014 #81

We are not astrologers, and no magic would be expected by celebrating Easter on "the right day" struggle4progress Apr 2014 #85

So we have no real idea when the resurrection occured;or dozens of conflicting dates for celebration Brettongarcia Apr 2014 #86

This guy seems obsessed. What's up with that? cbayer Apr 2014 #18

When you begin adding up the facts, and first suspect someone is lying to you.... Brettongarcia Apr 2014 #19

Those obsessed with trying to prove or disprove cbayer Apr 2014 #20

Many atheists here HAVE supported just walking away from it. But others are concerned about lies. Brettongarcia Apr 2014 #21

About half are apologetics? cbayer Apr 2014 #23

But in my examples, it is about physically saving physical lives finally Brettongarcia Apr 2014 #26

Saving is saving. cbayer Apr 2014 #28

Odd for someone associated with the medical profession to denigrate "saving" physical lives Brettongarcia Apr 2014 #29

Not at all odd for someone in the medical community to cbayer Apr 2014 #30

Another example of a Christian belief being physically fatal: denying medically-advised abortion Brettongarcia Apr 2014 #31

Yes, there are examples and those kinds of laws should be cbayer Apr 2014 #32

In my findings elsewhere, fatalities from religion are actually HUGE; enough to ban it Brettongarcia Apr 2014 #34

Oh, really? Could you provide a link for those "findings"? cbayer Apr 2014 #35

It is well known that religion is a major cause of WARS, first of all. Brettongarcia Apr 2014 #36

Let's test your hypothesis: which US conflicts since 1776 do you regard as caused by religion? struggle4progress Apr 2014 #39

That's not really a test; that's probably your best contrary example. Brettongarcia Apr 2014 #43

First of all, how can one 'ban' religion? LeftishBrit Apr 2014 #46

Why either/or? Why not BOTH? Brettongarcia Apr 2014 #51

trying to prove or disprove the specific tenets of religious beliefs are just spinning their wheels AlbertCat Apr 2014 #61

Oh, my, here we go again. cbayer Apr 2014 #66

Wow, I'm amazed this post is generating such emotion LeftishBrit Apr 2014 #45

The emotion generated has little to do with the post itself. cbayer Apr 2014 #50

I don't see any need to be convinced that one version of religion is truer than any other. AlbertCat Apr 2014 #62

History is full of assholes who have done all kinds of things. cbayer Apr 2014 #67

Ms. cbayer? Ms. cbayer has 129,000 posts on Democratic Underground as of April 20, 2014 Brettongarcia Apr 2014 #65

What? You have post count envy or something? cbayer Apr 2014 #70

This is to suggest that Ms cbayer is a very major presence in the DU Religion section Brettongarcia Apr 2014 #73

Yes, I am, but my post count is primarily a reflection cbayer Apr 2014 #74

Hmm... moderating appears to account for around 4 posts per day. Warren Stupidity Apr 2014 #80

All of these stories exist as ways to celebrate a holiday. Benton D Struckcheon Apr 2014 #54

When I was in police work MFM008 Apr 2014 #76

PS MFM008 Apr 2014 #77

Well, big welcome to the Religion group, MFM008! cbayer Apr 2014 #79

Great story. cbayer Apr 2014 #78

Jewish law does not allow interment on the Sabbath; intaglio Apr 2014 #82

When I first read your subject line, I thought it said "internet". cbayer Apr 2014 #89

Umm, given that certain extremist Rebbes have issued bans on the internet intaglio Apr 2014 #90