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Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
17. Yes and no
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 09:01 AM
Jul 2014

I think there's a lot to be learned through textual criticism. Comparing various translations of Biblical texts across many centuries gives one a pretty good idea of what the original texts might have said.

But that's neither here nor there, as I tend to agree with Dan Fincke, that religions are cultural institutions, more so than mere collections of ancient texts:

But the propositional, literalist believer is not the “true” instance of any religion. There is no way to mediate and determine what “true” Christianity or “true” Islam or “true” Hinduism are in propositional terms. These are cultural institutions, they have changed wildly over time and in different places and still can change in drastic unforeseeable ways. There is no reason to say a biblical or koranic literalist is truer to his or her religious tradition than someone who reads those texts allegorically or selectively or who rejects them entirely but still for some reason identifies with the religion.


What the totality of the texts say or don't say isn't really that important when each respective Christian sect has an established cultural tradition of believing or practicing in a certain way. They are all equally valid (or, as we would see them, invalid). So, we are in agreement on that point.

The anti-Christians AgingAmerican Jul 2014 #1
They know less of the bible than atheists. Enthusiast Jul 2014 #3
Actually... trotsky Jul 2014 #7
It doesn't help to push a false meme like that. trotsky Jul 2014 #8
They push the opposite of Christianity AgingAmerican Jul 2014 #24
How can it be "the opposite of Christianity" if they use the same source material cleanhippie Jul 2014 #28
Because AgingAmerican Jul 2014 #29
Oh but it's OK to mix Christianity with Democratic ideology, because that's what you believe. trotsky Jul 2014 #30
Why are you so upset by this? AgingAmerican Jul 2014 #38
I'm not upset by it, I just think it's hypocritical to criticize the right wing for... trotsky Jul 2014 #40
Im pointing out a fact AgingAmerican Jul 2014 #43
And I'm pointing out a fact too. trotsky Jul 2014 #44
What point? That "The Democrats do it too!"?? AgingAmerican Jul 2014 #45
Yep, I'm pretty stupid. trotsky Jul 2014 #46
I really love the passive-aggressive "why does this upset you?" approach. cleanhippie Jul 2014 #52
Was Jesus a True Scotsman? beam me up scottie Jul 2014 #54
Are you saying that non-GOP Christians don't mix politics with their religious beliefs? cleanhippie Jul 2014 #32
Which non GOP christians AgingAmerican Jul 2014 #39
Your intentional obfuscation demonstrate that you approve of mixing politics and religion cleanhippie Jul 2014 #41
Nothing you just said AgingAmerican Jul 2014 #42
Because your posts beg the question. beam me up scottie Jul 2014 #47
So you won't say why it upsets you so much AgingAmerican Jul 2014 #48
Every response you've gotten in this thread ends with you asking "why does this upset you?" cleanhippie Jul 2014 #50
Read the title of the OP AgingAmerican Jul 2014 #51
lol. Your projection makes honest conversation impossible. cleanhippie Jul 2014 #53
Your passive-aggressive approach is noted and dismissed. cleanhippie Jul 2014 #49
And it's well documented griloco Jul 2014 #2
I find this poll so disturbing. Octoberfurst Jul 2014 #4
The bible can be used for good or bad, as we so often discuss here. cbayer Jul 2014 #13
Cheat? Was that a Freudian slip? SecularMotion Jul 2014 #14
Lol. Yes, spell check didn't get that one. cbayer Jul 2014 #15
Apparently a number of posters here okasha Jul 2014 #20
We must get our own exorcist immediately. cbayer Jul 2014 #21
I suspect they're the same ones who believe okasha Jul 2014 #22
That is their gift okasha. cbayer Jul 2014 #23
Not even secretly... skepticscott Jul 2014 #25
That thing that just whizzed by you was the point. okasha Jul 2014 #27
Thanks, I got it skepticscott Jul 2014 #33
Like intolerance. rug Jul 2014 #34
Oh come on, they get cured by PLACEBO EFFECT. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #37
Back when I was wading in the cesspool known as Discussionist, I saw many, many posts ... Scuba Jul 2014 #5
I could never get started on Atlas Shrugged Gothmog Jul 2014 #6
I look back in horror when I recall the period of my life when I was totally mesmerized by Ayn Rand. cbayer Jul 2014 #12
That's the difference Prophet 451 Jul 2014 #36
What's interesting is that it's non-Christians who see Jesus as a liberal muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #9
Well whaddya know. n/t trotsky Jul 2014 #10
I think that's true, and not surprising, when you look at these rather large groups. cbayer Jul 2014 #11
As there is no way to determine which biblical interpretation is correct Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #16
Yes and no Act_of_Reparation Jul 2014 #17
What the original texts might have said is so frequently so completely absurd or unacceptable Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #18
Correction: Act_of_Reparation Jul 2014 #19
All of the textual criticism ever expounded skepticscott Jul 2014 #26
Precisely Act_of_Reparation Jul 2014 #31
Not a surprise Prophet 451 Jul 2014 #35
Spot on. okasha Jul 2014 #55
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