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hrmjustin

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51. Did they force abortions?

Reply to AtheistCrusader (Reply #50)

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 06:28 PM

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Pope Francis issues top 10 tips for happiness – including don’t try to convert other people [View all] SecularMotion Jul 2014 OP

They should be able to see your faith by how you lead your life. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #1

An excellent de-conversion tool, I do believe. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #4

For many yes. Many religious people have turned off people to religion by their actions. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #6

This makes no sense. How is this an excellent de-conversion tool. cbayer Jul 2014 #10

He said.. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #12

That's very interesting. cbayer Jul 2014 #16

Well, as I've mentioned before AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #21

Keeping religion out of politics is something we both agree on, I believe. cbayer Jul 2014 #24

Why can't you accept that some people incorporate new information and AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #26

People do that and find religion sometimes too. cbayer Jul 2014 #28

I don't lead them anywhere. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #29

So is it ok with you if people try to show others that there is a different way of seeing things, cbayer Jul 2014 #33

Sure, I believe in the first amendment. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #35

Does the first amendment include proselytizing? cbayer Jul 2014 #38

Outside the court established boundaries of the state, yes. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #40

Ok then, as long as you are ok with proselytizing to convert or deconvert. cbayer Jul 2014 #41

Yes! Let's not proselytise. TexasProgresive Jul 2014 #2

+100 Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #7

Cool. Couldn't agree more. cbayer Jul 2014 #3

Dunno. Those Westboro Baptist Church motherfuckers sort of deserve it... AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #22

Sort of deserve what? cbayer Jul 2014 #25

Speak ill of. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #27

Meh, one of the most significant buddhist truths I learned was cbayer Jul 2014 #30

.......... Goblinmonger Jul 2014 #31

Yep, you might want to pay attention. None of us are beyond learning. Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #76

I have had occasion to direct the exhaust ports of a 1600cc V-Twin in their direction. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #32

You tried to poison them with carbon dioxide? Or am I reading this wrong? cbayer Jul 2014 #34

It's a bike with a bigger engine than my car. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #36

So you went to Oklahoma to fart in the face of Westboro with your motorcycle? cbayer Jul 2014 #37

The noise of the engines drowns out their BS. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #39

The Westboro Baptist Church is loud and offensive. okasha Aug 2014 #88

They are certainly ineffective. AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #101

Excellent post! Thanks SM. Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #5

I agree. If all heads of state spoke in meaningless platitudes SecularMotion Jul 2014 #9

I know you probably meant this sarcastically, but I do think it has merit. cbayer Jul 2014 #11

"Meaningless platitutdes"? This is your OP Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #14

What a laugh! trotsky Jul 2014 #8

Yep, want to get serious about climate change? Reduce population growth. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #13

Really? You think climate change is about population growth. Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #15

I do, because studies show it to be true. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #17

Everything is relative. Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #43

Did you even look at the study? AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #45

I don't get it Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #54

AHAHAHAHAHA AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #55

Good stuff! Congrats! You're my kinda person. I was talking to America there, not you personally Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #59

It really is a shame that this one is not sitting on the IPCC. Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #77

Fossil fuels use is the biggie - pinto Jul 2014 #44

So what in turn creates the consumption of fossil fuels? In part, more people. They need more energy Brettongarcia Aug 2014 #66

China partially abandoned the single child policy, under pressure from Christians, Catholics Brettongarcia Jul 2014 #46

What happened if you had a second child in China? hrmjustin Jul 2014 #49

Usually significant fines, if you didn't fall into an exception category. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #50

Did they force abortions? hrmjustin Jul 2014 #51

Here. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #52

You are right that it is a mess. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #53

Yeah, I think when you have a policy that you can have another kid if your first kid is a cripple or AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #56

Nonsense. Do you just make this shit up? Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #57

Nonsense. Can you do serious research? Deductive reasoning? Brettongarcia Aug 2014 #68

I'm beginning to think thou dost bloviate a tad. You are the one who needs to do some research. Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #69

For catholic Italians, using contraception means ignoring much of their avowed Catholic religion Brettongarcia Aug 2014 #73

uh, yes of course it is. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #61

So, are you blaming China's growth rate on Catholicism? All 12 million of them, out of 1.4 billion. Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #62

LOGIC: Why do we want more energy? Mostly because we have more population; they need more Brettongarcia Aug 2014 #67

I'm sorry, but your ignorance of some basic facts is mind boggling. Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #71

I've worked professonally on environmental issues. There is much you are not thinking about Brettongarcia Aug 2014 #83

Your reasoning appears to be both simplistic and biased against religion. Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #85

Listen carefully: the controllable factor in Global Warming, is Overpopulation Brettongarcia Aug 2014 #86

OK, BG, You think the Catholic Church is trying to destroy the planet. Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #87

That's a new one. okasha Aug 2014 #89

Punningly converting an adjective to a noun is an unrecognizable grammatical transformation to you? Brettongarcia Aug 2014 #91

Where the fuck did I do that? Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #70

You jumped into a discussion about Catholicism and population growth and climate change. Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #72

You made yet another ridiculous assertion and Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #74

Stick to subjects you know something about. Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #75

google is not your friend on this issue. Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #78

We are discussing religion here, specifically Catholicism Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #79

You made an assertion of fact that was wrong. I corrected it. Deal with it. Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #80

Starboard: note 1) problems already in partially Catholic N&S America; and Catholic-targeted China Brettongarcia Aug 2014 #90

ZOMG!!!! okasha Aug 2014 #92

Pop growth remains high in the US. As US levels of energy consumption travel to populous countries Brettongarcia Aug 2014 #93

The party line from the Pope Hate Club. rug Jul 2014 #20

There's a club? AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #23

George Washington's troops celebrated "Pope Burning Day" Brettongarcia Jul 2014 #48

Ask trotsky. They might meet next to the pope fan club. rug Jul 2014 #58

He'd be in good company: our first 34 presidents, and the revolutionary army that savedAmerica Brettongarcia Aug 2014 #64

You must be in awe of the Know Nothing Party then. rug Aug 2014 #82

A name that denigrates that group, with a racial/religious/elitist slur Brettongarcia Aug 2014 #84

Do you think it's even possible to denigrate The Know Nothing Paty? rug Aug 2014 #94

Rug? 1) This is the "RELIGION SECTION" of DU. 2) The OP topic is the POPE. Brettongarcia Aug 2014 #95

Yes, and it is not NativistUnderground. rug Aug 2014 #96

Here we should not discriminate against any particular religion: we should criticize ALL religions Brettongarcia Aug 2014 #98

So we can assume that skepticscott Jul 2014 #18

Oh but it sure sounds good, doesn't it? trotsky Jul 2014 #19

Here a Pope says: don't impinge on others' beliefs; but act on your belief. But that will impinge. Brettongarcia Jul 2014 #47

I like these comments. And feel it may be possible to differentiate between Francis as an individual pinto Jul 2014 #42

They are absolutely smitten with him over here in Italy. cbayer Aug 2014 #63

The church grows almost exclusively through childhood indoctrination... MellowDem Jul 2014 #60

There's a theory that religion is a Santa-type lie for children. One day, we're supposed to see it Brettongarcia Aug 2014 #65

The difference is skepticscott Aug 2014 #97

Good point. Or today, adults who "believe" in Jesus, are systematically discouraged from disbelief Brettongarcia Aug 2014 #99

The fact that BG agrees with you should give you pause about what you typed. rug Aug 2014 #100

I'm trying to remember if I have EVER seen anyone agree with Rug. Or even converse with him. Brettongarcia Aug 2014 #102

I've agreed with rug on numerous occasions. Jim__ Aug 2014 #103

I am wondering if the real point isn't if you believe one way or the other it does not Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #81