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darkstar3

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37. Will they? And how far do you know?

Tue Apr 10, 2012, 06:58 PM

Apr 2012

Once again basing my experience on Catholic hospitals in Saint Louis, MO, your statement about "everywhere" doesn't ring true. The hospital I'm thinking of in particular feels that the life of the fetus is just as important as the life of the mother, and will do everything possible, even at higher risk, to save both.

Further, I don't agree with your last paragraph. The article in the OP is unfocused, and deals partly with empolyer/employee relations and partly with employee/customer relations. And what employees are allowed to do (and refuse to do) is a huge issue in the realm of patient treatment, and it is not well addressed by any rules and regulations I've ever seen at a business, medical or otherwise.

I think that comprehensive health care is a basic human right, and I think that the government has a vested interest in making sure that such comprehensive health care meets specific standards no matter the provider, and I look forward to the day when we as a country can agree upon that.

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Good article. trotsky Apr 2012 #1

It definitely needs discussion get the red out Apr 2012 #2

When it comes to the medical field, there shouldn't be any religious or "conscious" exemptions... Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #9

And with lives in their hands! get the red out Apr 2012 #10

Exactly! And while its restricted to women's health care now... Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #11

JW physicians and nurses generally have no objection to giving blood products, just to receiving cbayer Apr 2012 #14

Unless they are a member of the Church of Jesus Christ Christian, or some other protestant... Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #17

What? cbayer Apr 2012 #20

There are white supremacist and/or neo-nazi churches out there... Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #21

I don't think an employer is going to hire someone who is the member of a known hate group cbayer Apr 2012 #25

Already happened in other circumstances get the red out Apr 2012 #44

I disagree. cbayer Apr 2012 #13

The conscientious objection in the military was a different story. darkstar3 Apr 2012 #15

Lots of physicians and other healthcare providers limit their practices for any cbayer Apr 2012 #18

Those are more false equivalencies darkstar3 Apr 2012 #22

OK, so lots of OB-GYN programs don't include training in abortions or make it optional cbayer Apr 2012 #28

If what you say is true about physicians, then there is no need for a conscience clause for them. darkstar3 Apr 2012 #31

I will concede on the pharmacy issue. I have had mixed feelings about this, but I cbayer Apr 2012 #36

But we shouldn't give cover for what amounts to malpractice... Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #16

Give me an example of how a religious belief might affect what an ER physician cbayer Apr 2012 #19

When your private business is a public service, regulations are involved. darkstar3 Apr 2012 #23

Is there a federal regulation that states that medical facilities or pharmacies must provide cbayer Apr 2012 #29

Not yet. But that's beside my point, which I thank you for conceding. darkstar3 Apr 2012 #33

Pregnant woman goes to hospital due to complications... Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #24

You dare me? Never mind. cbayer Apr 2012 #30

You ask for an example skepticscott Apr 2012 #34

Hell yes I dare you, we aren't talking about elective abortions here.... Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #46

Why is your argument always skepticscott Apr 2012 #27

And that right there is why I don't think these people should be allowed to work in ERs. darkstar3 Apr 2012 #32

Hospitals everywhere, as far as I know, will perform an emergency abortion cbayer Apr 2012 #35

Will they? And how far do you know? darkstar3 Apr 2012 #37

It really gets complicated when the life of the mother and fetus are at risk, cbayer Apr 2012 #39

You missed a couple of my points: darkstar3 Apr 2012 #40

I don't think I missed your points at all, darkstar. cbayer Apr 2012 #41

Wrong...It's not complicated at all for the Catholic church skepticscott Apr 2012 #42

Catholic doctrine skepticscott Apr 2012 #38

I removed the crucifix from my Dad's hospital room. Jokerman Apr 2012 #3

If the hospital had no problem with you taking it down, then why is it even an issue? humblebum Apr 2012 #5

I don't know or care what the hospital thought about it. Jokerman Apr 2012 #6

Wasn't looking for any answer. I can only say that you should have known going in that humblebum Apr 2012 #7

Missed the last sentence of his first post, or just chose to ignore it? n/t Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #8

I did. And sometimes you just can't please everyone. If an object causes such humblebum Apr 2012 #12

You have literally no idea what this persons background was. eqfan592 Apr 2012 #26

It is not the Catholic hospital's fault that the patient was so offended humblebum Apr 2012 #43

�over play the event�? Are you for real? Jokerman Apr 2012 #47

My sympathies are with your father, but the humblebum Apr 2012 #48

My dad doesn't need your sympathy. Jokerman Apr 2012 #49

This is a discussion group. Therefore you should expect responses to your postings. humblebum Apr 2012 #50

You did more than state an opinion, you made accusations... Jokerman Apr 2012 #51

Your problems run much deeper than concerns for your father. nt humblebum Apr 2012 #52

No, your argument is bullshit. SwissTony Apr 2012 #53

I think these kinds of discussions are good and can lead to a better understanding cbayer Apr 2012 #4

Unless one dismisses those other POVs... trotsky Apr 2012 #45