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Evidence suggests that religion has accompanied homo sapiens for many thousands of years. [View all] guillaumeb Nov 2017 OP

I would guess fewer deaths overall without religion in the picture True Dough Nov 2017 #1

What of tribalism, guillaumeb Nov 2017 #2

I was going to say religion, greed and testosterone BigmanPigman Nov 2017 #7

Well, no more than 6 (thousands), right? ret5hd Nov 2017 #3

One source here: guillaumeb Nov 2017 #4

Another link: guillaumeb Nov 2017 #5

WHOOOOSH!!! ret5hd Nov 2017 #11

Yes it did, and I have a lot of hair to ruffle. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #36

the op is going to equivocate about what he means by "religion". Voltaire2 Nov 2017 #9

Perhaps not by your definition. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #38

I wonder if we have any examples... yallerdawg Nov 2017 #6

What exactly is your point about Japan and China? Voltaire2 Nov 2017 #10

"maybe there is an argument religion curbs our violent natures" trotsky Nov 2017 #20

THAT is not religion. yallerdawg Nov 2017 #21

It was religion to them. trotsky Nov 2017 #22

They did not represent Islam... NeoGreen Nov 2017 #25

They represented their particular version of Islam. Voltaire2 Nov 2017 #60

Incidental... NeoGreen Nov 2017 #63

I cannot find any utopias at all, either religious or non-religious. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #39

The repeated implication is that religion is the font of all evil in the world. yallerdawg Nov 2017 #44

Agreed. A theme repeated by some in the group. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #46

Religion is simply a warped expression of humility. Comatose Sphagetti Nov 2017 #8

So humanity has been "warped" for 300,000 years? guillaumeb Nov 2017 #40

that claim again Voltaire2 Nov 2017 #61

I posted my links. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #62

yes you did post links however there is no evidence of religious practices Voltaire2 Nov 2017 #64

Some scientists draw, or infer, a connection between burial practices and guillaumeb Nov 2017 #66

Yeah well that is fine. It is not 300000 years if religion Voltaire2 Nov 2017 #67

Can you officially define religion? guillaumeb Nov 2017 #68

belief in gods is one requirement Voltaire2 Nov 2017 #70

Actually the main evidence for prehistoric religion is anthropological marylandblue Nov 2017 #69

So there is a progression from animism to shaminism to belief in gods Voltaire2 Nov 2017 #71

I consider those religions marylandblue Nov 2017 #72

We'll never know how many people EvilAL Nov 2017 #12

It has a lot to do with power as well. EvilAL Nov 2017 #13

Since when does faith... NeoGreen Nov 2017 #14

If you had evidence... yallerdawg Nov 2017 #19

Correct...it is called Skepticism... NeoGreen Nov 2017 #23

There is a purpose to faith. yallerdawg Nov 2017 #28

You could still have free will EvilAL Nov 2017 #29

Well, Satan did set the standard for rejecting God. yallerdawg Nov 2017 #30

Free will to have faith over evidence? EvilAL Nov 2017 #32

Do you think Satan is real? n/t trotsky Nov 2017 #33

I don't know, do you? yallerdawg Nov 2017 #37

Nope, I think he is a character in a fictional story. trotsky Nov 2017 #45

I don't know. yallerdawg Nov 2017 #47

How can you be sure you aren't being deceived by Loki? trotsky Nov 2017 #48

Au contraire, mon ami. yallerdawg Nov 2017 #49

Yes but only if you use the word "faith" accurately... trotsky Nov 2017 #50

Faith: yallerdawg Nov 2017 #51

I trust you'll figure it out. n/t trotsky Nov 2017 #59

The purpose of faith is to... NeoGreen Nov 2017 #34

Faith needs no evidence. eom guillaumeb Nov 2017 #41

Evidence suggests senseless indigestion has accompanied homo sapiens for many thousands of years. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2017 #15

Testify!...oh wait...(did I say that out loud?)... NeoGreen Nov 2017 #16

Human beings are curious animals. MineralMan Nov 2017 #17

Evidence also suggests that murder and rape have accompanied homo sapiens for even longer. trotsky Nov 2017 #18

Don't forget shitty music, bad haircuts, and stupid hats. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2017 #24

That's a logical fallacy. DetlefK Nov 2017 #26

Fighting for food and territory or to breed EvilAL Nov 2017 #31

But we humans have rulers in funny hats. DetlefK Nov 2017 #35

We fight over everything. EvilAL Nov 2017 #65

Religion and tribalism seem to be 2 of the commonalities of human existence. eom guillaumeb Nov 2017 #42

Same thing zipplewrath Nov 2017 #57

True, and nicely stated. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #58

Religion is a human institution HopeAgain Nov 2017 #27

Nice points. Thank you. eom guillaumeb Nov 2017 #43

So Has E. coli. Maybe we're looking in the wrong place MineralMan Nov 2017 #52

Navel gazing? guillaumeb Nov 2017 #53

I don't think the omphalos is home to the deity, frankly. MineralMan Nov 2017 #55

Look deeper, Seeker of wisdom. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #56

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"... no change in political systems could eradicate the universal human propensity for savagery." Jim__ Nov 2017 #73