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Response to Jim__ (Reply #18)

Tue Dec 20, 2011, 08:01 PM

20. Aquinas says all thing must be put in motion.

The first and more manifest way is the argument from motion. It is certain, and evident to our senses, that in the world some things are in motion. Now whatever is in motion is put in motion by another (let's not talk about the fact that he had know knowledge of physics.)

But then he says there must be something that did not need to be in motion. ie God. Therefore EVERYTHING does not need to be put in motion. By his own admission. Further Dawkins questions why. even if this were so, do you jump to the conclusion that it is an intelligent, all-knowing being?
I think he does a good job at showing that Aquinas' argument for the unmoved mover is weak to nonexistent and merely an attempt to justify something for which there is no evidence. (I believe that is called apriori in philosophy, not sure)

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