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xocet

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7. "Perceptronium"? How about imperceptronium?

Reply to Binkie The Clown (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2015, 01:21 PM

May 2015

Posted by Allison Eck on Tue, 22 Apr 2014
Physicists Say Consciousness Might Be a State of Matter

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Tegmark calls his new state of matter “perceptronium.” From the Physics arXiv Blog on Medium:

Tegmark discusses perceptronium, defined as the most general substance that feels subjectively self-aware. This substance should not only be able to store and process information but in a way that forms a unified, indivisible whole. That also requires a certain amount of independence in which the information dynamics is determined from within rather than externally.

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http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/physics/physicists-say-consciousness-might-be-a-state-of-matter/

Imperceptronium: the most general substance that is objectively not even wrong.

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Nova: Physicists Say Consciousness Might Be a State of Matter [View all] Binkie The Clown May 2015 OP

Interesting theory, it's hard for me to see conscienceness as an element though... AuntPatsy May 2015 #1

Not an element, but elemental (like gravity, e.g.) mcranor May 2015 #2

I'm thinking about how and or why though perhaps the why would not apply AuntPatsy May 2015 #6

perhaps it is around us with the brain accessing it as a computer accesses the internet roguevalley May 2015 #8

IMO this image is a big clue as to what's going on with conciousness... tridim May 2015 #3

Huge clue, striking similarities, interesting AuntPatsy May 2015 #4

Indeed. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #9

how delightfully Scholastic! MisterP May 2015 #5

"Perceptronium"? How about imperceptronium? xocet May 2015 #7

Also known as Life force PuraVidaDreamin May 2015 #10

Quantum Dharma Fairgo May 2015 #11

Roger Penrose was writing about this 25 years ago. SoLeftIAmRight May 2015 #12

Hve you read anything by/about David Bohm? Binkie The Clown May 2015 #13

Tipler also comes to mind. bvf May 2015 #21

Are you referring to Orchestrated Objective Reduction? Jim__ May 2015 #14

So... many... mistakes... DetlefK May 2015 #15

Yep, I just can't see any reason to go down that rabbit hole. hunter May 2015 #16

And if we follow your argument... DetlefK May 2015 #17

Please, please bvf May 2015 #20

Tegmark views the paper as an investigation into the physical properties that conscious systems ... Jim__ May 2015 #18

The riddle of the ice and the water is fairly easy: DetlefK May 2015 #19