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IrishAyes

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Sun Aug 2, 2015, 07:32 PM Aug 2015

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Okay, at first glance this might appear to be in the wrong forum because it started with a DIY topic on another website. But those other groups don't necessarily have any SCIENTISTS, much less chemists, and I want the very best answer to my dilemma.

It all started when apartmenttherapydotcom said don't use vinegar for a softener in dishwashers and washing machines anymore because it's hell on the fittings and hoses. Since I have heard about water softener systems screwing up the plumbing in houses, that brought me to a screeching halt.

So I started looking up DIY liquid fabric softeners and except for one, ALL have vinegar in the formula. The one that doesn't says use epsom salts instead.

Question: Is the alkaline epsom salts just as bad for rubber hoses and fittings or less so? than vinegar on rubber hoses and fittings? If it is, can a real chemist tell me a better way to do this?

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Chemistry Question [View all] IrishAyes Aug 2015 OP
Vinegar contains acetic acid Gman Aug 2015 #1
Thanks! IrishAyes Aug 2015 #7
Biologist, so not quite a chemist jeff47 Aug 2015 #2
Thank you so much! IrishAyes Aug 2015 #5
A note about cleaning drains with baking soda and vinegar csziggy Aug 2015 #10
Great answer, biologist! Chemisse Aug 2015 #11
you'd have to ... get the 100% acetic acid Lionel Mandrake Aug 2015 #12
While you can probably soften fittings in a strong aceitc acid solution Warpy Aug 2015 #3
Normally I'm not quite so jumpy. IrishAyes Aug 2015 #6
The first thing to ask yourself: SheilaT Aug 2015 #4
Glad to hear that - thanks! IrishAyes Aug 2015 #8
Epsom salt is not alkaline, it is neutral. eppur_se_muova Aug 2015 #9
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