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45. Dark Matter? I always looked upon that as a fudge factor.

Fri Mar 20, 2026, 05:29 PM

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Fred Hoyle proposed the "Continuous Creation" theory, which, at the time I read his book, seemed to be competing ONLY with the big bang, proposed by Monsignor Georges Lemaître, a priest, civil engineer and artillery officer.

I have big, big allergies to two of them in the service of science, though shooting at nazi's is commendable in a way (better not to let them get that powerful in the first place)

But those were the alternatives, and I went with Hoyle on this, the big bang being too close to religion, which has had a history of burning and .... oh well

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