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In reply to the discussion: Do we have souls? [View all]GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)111. That sounds like mirror neurons in action.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror_neuron
But that's still not the domain of the "soul" that I think ST is taking about here, and certainly not what I mean when I use the word.
A mirror neuron is a neuron that fires both when an animal acts and when the animal observes the same action performed by another.[1][2][3] Thus, the neuron "mirrors" the behaviour of the other, as though the observer were itself acting. Such neurons have been directly observed in primate and other species including birds. In humans, brain activity consistent with that of mirror neurons has been found in the premotor cortex, the supplementary motor area, the primary somatosensory cortex and the inferior parietal cortex.
Mirror neurons were first described in 1992. Some scientists consider this to be one of the most important recent discoveries in neuroscience. Among them is V.S. Ramachandran, who believes they might be very important in imitation and language acquisition. Ramachandran has also speculated that mirror neurons are involved in understanding other people's feelings (empathy) and that they have played a role in the development of human culture.[4]
However, scientists such as Greg Hickok have expressed skepticism in regard to the claim that mirror neurons are the basis of the cognitive ability to understand others' intentions or feelings. Hickok, the director of the Center for Cognitive Neuroscience at UC Irvine, has argued that there is little or no evidence to support the claim that mirror neurons are involved in understanding the intentions of others.[5] Despite the excitement generated by these findings, to date no widely accepted neural or computational models have been put forward to describe how mirror neuron activity supports cognitive functions such as imitation.[6]
The function of the mirror system is a subject of much speculation. Many researchers in cognitive neuroscience and cognitive psychology consider that this system provides the physiological mechanism for the perception action coupling (see the common coding theory).[3] These mirror neurons may be important for understanding the actions of other people, and for learning new skills by imitation. Some researchers also speculate that mirror systems may simulate observed actions, and thus contribute to theory of mind skills,[7][8] while others relate mirror neurons to language abilities.[9] It has also been proposed that problems with the mirror system may underlie cognitive disorders, particularly autism.[10][11] However the connection between mirror neuron dysfunction and autism is tentative and it remains to be seen how mirror neurons may be related to many of the important characteristics of autism.[6]
Mirror neurons were first described in 1992. Some scientists consider this to be one of the most important recent discoveries in neuroscience. Among them is V.S. Ramachandran, who believes they might be very important in imitation and language acquisition. Ramachandran has also speculated that mirror neurons are involved in understanding other people's feelings (empathy) and that they have played a role in the development of human culture.[4]
However, scientists such as Greg Hickok have expressed skepticism in regard to the claim that mirror neurons are the basis of the cognitive ability to understand others' intentions or feelings. Hickok, the director of the Center for Cognitive Neuroscience at UC Irvine, has argued that there is little or no evidence to support the claim that mirror neurons are involved in understanding the intentions of others.[5] Despite the excitement generated by these findings, to date no widely accepted neural or computational models have been put forward to describe how mirror neuron activity supports cognitive functions such as imitation.[6]
The function of the mirror system is a subject of much speculation. Many researchers in cognitive neuroscience and cognitive psychology consider that this system provides the physiological mechanism for the perception action coupling (see the common coding theory).[3] These mirror neurons may be important for understanding the actions of other people, and for learning new skills by imitation. Some researchers also speculate that mirror systems may simulate observed actions, and thus contribute to theory of mind skills,[7][8] while others relate mirror neurons to language abilities.[9] It has also been proposed that problems with the mirror system may underlie cognitive disorders, particularly autism.[10][11] However the connection between mirror neuron dysfunction and autism is tentative and it remains to be seen how mirror neurons may be related to many of the important characteristics of autism.[6]
But that's still not the domain of the "soul" that I think ST is taking about here, and certainly not what I mean when I use the word.
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"life would be so much harder if i didn't believe we'll be together again"
awoke_in_2003
Jan 2012
#5
Humans (and possibly other semi-sentient animals) can believe anything if they want to bad enough.
Wistful Vista
Jan 2012
#21
That's true. It's why I'm practicing the suspension of all belief and disbelief.
GliderGuider
Jan 2012
#38
A ghost, in my experience, is the manifestation of the soul in the form of ectoplasm.
AlbertCat
Jan 2012
#148
I think you just showed your hand, and you are pulling our chains here. Nice job.
cleanhippie
Jan 2012
#152
"I am still highly skeptical of ghosts" - But that contradicts your statement that you DO believe in
cleanhippie
Jan 2012
#159
No, I was answering a question about the difference between ghosts and souls.
Starboard Tack
Jan 2012
#163
I also do not think the soul is confined to human existence, but possibly is inherent to all things.
cleanhippie
Jan 2012
#150
The concept of a soul means a belief that there is something after death.
Curmudgeoness
Jan 2012
#30
A lack of belief in fantastic claims doesn't require any evidence, it is the default condition.
Wistful Vista
Jan 2012
#36
I think it is possible that some humans, or those who pose as humans, may not have souls.
Starboard Tack
Jan 2012
#45
Because your expectations are low since few people are your intellectual equal, I imagine.
Wistful Vista
Jan 2012
#35
Congrats on the "puerile" wordsmithing. If you had spelled "misogynistic" correctly,
Wistful Vista
Jan 2012
#131
It looks like it came from an Indonesian psychology paper published last year.
GliderGuider
Jan 2012
#89
Ah, but depth psychology can heal old wounds, rather than creating new ones...
GliderGuider
Jan 2012
#99
The problem is that religions have appropriated the concept of the soul so completely
GliderGuider
Jan 2012
#48
Funny, I never felt that the soul concept had been appropriated by religion
Starboard Tack
Jan 2012
#51
Yes, I believe each living being has a soul, or the potential to have a soul.
Starboard Tack
Jan 2012
#112
Honestly no, I'm always puzzled by the concept of souls, they seem contradictory...
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2012
#65
I asked if you thought existence itself was finite, not your existence.
Starboard Tack
Jan 2012
#122
What are souls exactly? Why should we have them? What are the indications that we do/do not?
dmallind
Jan 2012
#78
If you have one, you'll know what it is, though I doubt you'll be able to adequately describe it.
Starboard Tack
Jan 2012
#83
Sometimes I wonder if simply random dna can account for all of the differences
lindysalsagal
Jan 2012
#166
Our brains are information-processing organs, not supernatural radio receivers. n/t
backscatter712
Jan 2012
#167
That's a treacle-sweet phrase, "his soul is untouched and shines through..."
darkstar3
Jan 2012
#173
Not everything that exists is quantifiable. Feelings and thoughts, ideas, concepts e.g.
Starboard Tack
Jan 2012
#178
But the ONLY place your sense of self and consciousness resides is your brain.
Starboard Tack
Jan 2012
#190
As far as I can tell, no. I am willing to be persuaded otherwise if verifiable, repeatable evidence
Jean V. Dubois
Jan 2012
#181