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SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
53. This sounds exceptionally toxic!
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 10:28 PM
Jan 2021

I went back & re-read your post two more times.

I'm seeing / hearing boundary issues, enmeshment, alcoholism, etc.

If I were in your situation, I would completely extricate myself from this situation & I have literally done so in my own life. But I have a somewhat unique take on life. I never enable pathology, refuse to accept pathological projections, & I make a really problematic "victim."

Those folks are "crazy makers." Toss in the crazy religious stuff, the stress of having recently lost your dad, the alcoholism, and now this crisis, and it is a recipe for disaster.

One thing that is certain: holidays & crisis situations constellate all the complexes, so being around those folks at this time would be a nightmare.

Also, alcoholics do not need to be drinking to displpay crappy, drunk-like behavior. There is such a thing as a "dry drunk." And alcoholism.is a progressive disease, so a person who has not been drunk in 20 years, for instance, will be as verbose, abusive, &/or violent as if they had been drinking all those years, should they opt to drink

Additionally, trauma situations are the #1 cause of relapse in addictions.

The religious comment is beyond rational thought. Yuk.

I'd considerate it a gift to be disinvited because you are not obligated to experience the high degree of dysfunction that is quite likely to occur.

So sorry you are experiencing this.

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Why not give yourself a break & learn some new healthy skills which will give you an objective distance from daily concerns?

The 1st videos are available immediately after a very brief registration.

Please consider self-compassion: what would you say to a dear friend in your circumstance?

I hope this is helpful to you!

Sorry for your losses.....it must be surreal for you. nt OAITW r.2.0 Jan 2021 #1
Thank you. And yes, that's a great word for how it feels. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2021 #6
I'm so sorry mzmolly Jan 2021 #2
I'm very sorry for your loss. MontanaMama Jan 2021 #3
My aunt walk away from me two decades ago because of something I said, that I cannot believe LizBeth Jan 2021 #4
I'm sorry for your loss and that you had to deal with that difficult decision Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2021 #10
Right back at you. LizBeth Jan 2021 #13
Wow. Just... wow. dixiechiken1 Jan 2021 #5
Sometimes when I don't know what to say, I just give up trying Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2021 #8
Oh my God, Dark n Stormy Knight! I am so very sorry for the loss of your brother and father! LaMouffette Jan 2021 #7
Thank you for the kind words. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2021 #15
No need to apologize! I was brought up to be Catholic, too, but it just didn't "take." LaMouffette Jan 2021 #24
Good old Bill Maher. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2021 #32
You're more than welcome! LaMouffette Jan 2021 #43
I'm so sorry Clash City Rocker Jan 2021 #9
Thanks, Clash. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2021 #11
Family... they'll drive you crazy! The widow's behavior was wrong on every imaginable level. The Karadeniz Jan 2021 #12
Thank you, Karadeniz. In many ways you and I are on the same page about all this. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2021 #20
Your mother might provide the motivation for the whole clan to get together amicably... sounds Karadeniz Jan 2021 #23
It's funny you should say that, because that's not at all how her daughters see her. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2021 #35
Well, you know how to pick'em! I really don't know why some people have children if they don't want Karadeniz Jan 2021 #57
I am so sorry iamateacher Jan 2021 #14
I am sorry for you losses. Chainfire Jan 2021 #16
Thank your, Chainfire. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2021 #31
So Faux pas Jan 2021 #17
Faux pas, thank you for your kind reply. I too was the "odd one out" all though my life, Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2021 #22
Sometimes these surprises Turbineguy Jan 2021 #18
I am so sorry UpInArms Jan 2021 #19
Reading this, and your brother's outreach on Christmas Eve impresses to me that your Sister-On-Law TheBlackAdder Jan 2021 #21
Adder, I love that you are thinking deeply about the family dynamics Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2021 #26
That was worse than I thought. TheBlackAdder Jan 2021 #34
I have spent more money on therapists in my life than I care to recall. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2021 #39
People can say some really shitty things after a death, and I'm so... 3catwoman3 Jan 2021 #25
Catwoman, thank you for sharing your experience and for your kind and suportive words. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2021 #29
I'm so sorry... CaptainTruth Jan 2021 #27
So sorry to hear of the situation with siblings... 2naSalit Jan 2021 #28
I'm so sorry, DnSK. area51 Jan 2021 #30
Regardless of what has happened before, you are allowed to feel what you feel. TNNurse Jan 2021 #33
I am sorry you've lost not only your Dad recently, but now also your brother. Fla Dem Jan 2021 #36
Hey Fla, I appreciate your percpetion. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2021 #49
I certainly didn't want to come across as if I had any real understanding Fla Dem Jan 2021 #55
Boundaries, clarity and self compassion. If you can get yourself to focus, the meditation could be JudyM Jan 2021 #56
Sorry for your loss and that you are going through this. You have a right to your feelings. 58Sunliner Jan 2021 #37
Thank you. I know that that means I also have to understand that others have that same right. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2021 #40
Sounds like some of your family doesn't give you the same respect. 58Sunliner Jan 2021 #44
I am sorry for your loss irisblue Jan 2021 #38
I'm so sorry. cate94 Jan 2021 #41
Condolences on the loss of your brother. gademocrat7 Jan 2021 #42
You are experiencing "complex grief" / unresolved issues SheltieLover Jan 2021 #45
I appreciate your reply and suggestions. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2021 #50
You are most welcome SheltieLover Jan 2021 #54
i'm so sorry. barbtries Jan 2021 #46
Barbrires, I am touched by and grateful for your reply. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2021 #52
I am so sorry that you lost your father and brother so tragically and in such a short Tanuki Jan 2021 #47
I'm so sorry. Duppers Jan 2021 #48
I'm very sorry for your double loss dlk Jan 2021 #51
This sounds exceptionally toxic! SheltieLover Jan 2021 #53
In case anyone sees this, I checked in here, but then realized it's not a good idea at the moment. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2021 #58
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