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In reply to the discussion: What drives the extreme age division between Sanders and Clinton voters? [View all]jeff47
(26,549 posts)135. Hi. I'm one of these mysterious "young people".
GenX, technically.
When we talked about our high tuition and credit-card-interest-rate student debt, we were told it was time to shut up and gut welfare.
Though the party finally did finally work to cut the interest rate...after our scheduled payments were done.
So I'm well aware of what "engagement" wrought. And I'm well aware how the massive political apathy of my generation was created. There's a reason there's basically no GenX Democrats taking over for the Boomer Democrats, and it wasn't for lack of engagement. We're a small generation, and we weren't needed for Democrats to win. So that engagement went nowhere.
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What drives the extreme age division between Sanders and Clinton voters? [View all]
Fumesucker
Feb 2016
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Actually I think it is more that people in the 1% don't want to pay their fair share of taxes
peacebird
Feb 2016
#4
That would be this graph, the numbers of people start tapering off at advanced ages
Fumesucker
Feb 2016
#22
Meaning that the number of Americans older than 60 or so is substantially smaller than those younger
forest444
Feb 2016
#147
Except that wages have been stagnant since the recession, & that has younger voters in Sanders camp
peacebird
Feb 2016
#24
but this now or never stuff betrays a disinterest in long term advocacy....
bettyellen
Feb 2016
#103
Maybe Bernie won't shut down his people organization after he gets elected like Obama shut down OFA
Fumesucker
Feb 2016
#211
It would be nice to see young people have a sustained interest, but I feel like it begins and
bettyellen
Feb 2016
#225
It IS possible to have both a low income and also have larger values and ideals
Armstead
Feb 2016
#23
63% of Americans Can't Afford $500 Car Repair or $1,000 Emergency Room Visit
Fumesucker
Feb 2016
#13
that doesn't mean they are poor, necessarily. It means they aren't saving...
yawnmaster
Feb 2016
#132
That's not the impression I get from the article. Saving is not a priority. eom
yawnmaster
Feb 2016
#155
read the article. Not all those are on a modest income. Many are at the high income level...
yawnmaster
Feb 2016
#224
Not to butt in, but...I'm not poor; I'm not young; but I get a kick out of helping improve society.
Gregorian
Feb 2016
#79
Ah, those damn dirty millennial "TAKERS" 47% worthless leaches... Ah Vintage Romney /nt
JPnoodleman
Feb 2016
#40
No, but it is nice that the true stances of Hillary and her Cohort. Ol' Mitt Romney was right?
JPnoodleman
Feb 2016
#80
Truthfully, I think it is more than older folks not wanting to pay. I think they've known Clinton
Hoyt
Feb 2016
#104
Such an odd statement reveals your age and detachment. 50 years ago..,
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
Feb 2016
#216
Most in their 40's already paid off the college loans and think oh know I thought I was done.
yeoman6987
Feb 2016
#226
Older people are more likely to still be in the bubble and not understand
winter is coming
Feb 2016
#9
DU runs pretty old too, just because olds are clueless on average does not mean we all are
Fumesucker
Feb 2016
#213
I'm the goto IT guy for my crowd, some of whom are twenty and thirty years younger
Fumesucker
Feb 2016
#220
Gimme more? You know, sharing what you have actually makes one happier. nt
Live and Learn
Feb 2016
#17
You must think boomers are stupid. my middle class taxes would go up $100/year. my healthcare
Doctor_J
Feb 2016
#173
And boomer high-school graduates got jobs starting at inflation-adjusted $40k/year (nt)
jeff47
Feb 2016
#113
Clearly, I should have organized my third grade class to stop the Greenspan commission. (nt)
jeff47
Feb 2016
#110
That was the economy that white men--and only white men--enjoyed up until
geek tragedy
Feb 2016
#162
Eh, I'm of SS age and I don't have a TV, find it painful to watch and have for a while
Fumesucker
Feb 2016
#58
No, it simply means there are an "excess" number, relative to the population.
JonLeibowitz
Feb 2016
#78
No it's not the same thing since the poster was referring to Bernie doing well in Iowa specifically
JonLeibowitz
Feb 2016
#89
their whole lives youngun's have heard repubs and sanders-type dems dumping on hillary endlessly nt
msongs
Feb 2016
#51
I think it's more to do with older folks understanding the reality of politics...
DCBob
Feb 2016
#98
I believe young people know their Congresspeople have disappointed them and screwed their future
Nanjeanne
Feb 2016
#123
GenX will be the first generation in US history to die poorer than their parents
jeff47
Feb 2016
#108
That's great SheilaT. Glad to hear there are still some people out there willing to fight.
liberal_at_heart
Feb 2016
#149
Where are the Boomers who fought so hard during the 60's? How did we go from
liberal_at_heart
Feb 2016
#143
When you are greedy and acquire wealth, you are pretty focused on defending it
AZ Progressive
Feb 2016
#157
They could job share, take early retirement, start their own business, change careers,
Doctor_J
Feb 2016
#188
Undoubtedly some lobs would be lost. Our health care system is highly inefficient
LondonReign2
Feb 2016
#234
Huh? How many people younger than 35 are earning upwards of $180K? Can you elaborate?
George II
Feb 2016
#179
I would say reading is fundamental, but I don't think it is a reading comprehension issue
LondonReign2
Feb 2016
#235
Feigning ignorance with the intent of distorting an argument? Getting called on that is not getting
LondonReign2
Feb 2016
#244
Check the chart and then check my comment. No feigning or ignorance involved on my part...
George II
Feb 2016
#246
Also, Bernie is urging us to build a better future while Hillary likes the status quo
emsimon33
Feb 2016
#182
Young people are impatient for change, old people don't want change - want to protect
Peregrine Took
Feb 2016
#189
No one under the age of 25 has lived at a time when Clinton wasn't smeared in the media
KitSileya
Feb 2016
#232