2016 Postmortem

Surya Gayatri

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86. Unfortunately, progressives tend to run 180° in the opposite direction.

Sat Oct 13, 2012, 08:57 AM

Oct 2012

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"instinctively fall(ing) into lockstep behind (an) authority figure" is ideologically anathema to progressives.

Just like the proverbial herd of cats. Democratic strategists and leaders must sometimes feel like these cat herders:

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PPP teaser about OH poll tomorrow [View all] geek tragedy Oct 2012 OP

I never liked PPP anyway Mario_Ordinario Oct 2012 #1

Is the Friday night effect in place again? If so, no wonder it is close. LonePirate Oct 2012 #2

So what should we do to reverse the trend? Firebirds01 Oct 2012 #3

Obama is the only one who can reverse this. geek tragedy Oct 2012 #6

well their last poll of Ohio was close too--Obama +4 WI_DEM Oct 2012 #4

Why do you think they'll end up mzmolly Oct 2012 #5

Parts of DU are rapidly approaching "skewed polls" mentality. nt geek tragedy Oct 2012 #17

But there is nothing in the teaser that mzmolly Oct 2012 #18

Trend lines. It used to be that a bad poll was Obama up 2 and a good one was geek tragedy Oct 2012 #38

I see. mzmolly Oct 2012 #61

It would. But no one went broke or lost an election because they underestimated geek tragedy Oct 2012 #87

Romney's bounce ended about 2 days ago. AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #80

Yes, his polling has been getting better each and every day. geek tragedy Oct 2012 #88

I think some polls still reflect his bounce. mzmolly Oct 2012 #92

His momentum's slowed down. AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #94

I question that very much. nt AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #78

For reference, their previous numbers Blaukraut Oct 2012 #7

if O had been up 5%, would ppp be impressive? Mario_Ordinario Oct 2012 #83

According to Nate, Mitt is beginning to gain in swing states budkin Oct 2012 #8

Poor debate performance. Simple as that. n/t Daniel537 Oct 2012 #10

Obama got up in front of 70 million people and couldn't tell them why he deserved geek tragedy Oct 2012 #13

Mitt stood up in front of those same people and lied ProSense Oct 2012 #16

No, it means that Romney wanted it more and is a more effective candidate. geek tragedy Oct 2012 #20

"is a more effective candidate" ProSense Oct 2012 #23

Obama's campaign had this thing won. Won. In the bag. geek tragedy Oct 2012 #31

Nonsense ProSense Oct 2012 #32

And now they show him behind. your point? nt geek tragedy Oct 2012 #39

The one that escaped you: ProSense Oct 2012 #41

Gallup also changed the % of cell phones in their poll this week. geek tragedy Oct 2012 #48

he most certainly has prepared and practiced. nt woolldog Oct 2012 #53

Well he's in Williamsburg this weekend to bone up. I think he know's better then anyone ChimpersMcSmirkers Oct 2012 #54

Why are you TROLLING AND TOOLING FOR ROBME ON THIS BOARD? GO AWAY ! RBInMaine Oct 2012 #73

I am beginning to wonder if this may indeed be true. nt AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #81

You're in a heep of trouble. UnrepentantLiberal Oct 2012 #84

People around here seem to forget that there are two more debates WI_DEM Oct 2012 #24

I think the town hall format will suit him well budkin Oct 2012 #47

If the viewers didn't _know_ he lied, then he came across as strong and decisive. Rather like GreenPartyVoter Oct 2012 #52

This is sadly really accurate jsmirman Oct 2012 #66

What was their reasoning woolldog Oct 2012 #67

I know this is hard to hear, but the guy at least jsmirman Oct 2012 #68

Maybe they'll have Romney leading. Let's consider: ProSense Oct 2012 #9

Exactly, I posted pretty much same thing above that PPP last poll was only +4 WI_DEM Oct 2012 #14

If the numbers from Ohio aren't good, woolldog Oct 2012 #11

You Are Enjoying This A Little Too Much DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #12

Enjoying? No. To tell the truth, I'm seething with anger geek tragedy Oct 2012 #15

I think you're confusing panic with "truth" n/t ProSense Oct 2012 #19

I guess I should chill out, because he's got this. nt geek tragedy Oct 2012 #22

Probably not a ProSense Oct 2012 #28

No. Just get out of politics. Shivering Jemmy Oct 2012 #46

lol! hrmjustin Oct 2012 #62

Yes, your hatred of the President is very clear. You seethe in every post. writes3000 Oct 2012 #21

Two weeks ago I was getting posts hidden for attacking critics of the President here. geek tragedy Oct 2012 #25

Looks like nothing has changed. ProSense Oct 2012 #30

i think you attacked me a few times woolldog Oct 2012 #44

I was probably a real dick about it too. geek tragedy Oct 2012 #45

Don't give up. woolldog Oct 2012 #49

We'll see if he's in on Tuesday. Pray that he is. nt geek tragedy Oct 2012 #51

We Can't Put The Toothpaste Back In The Tube DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #26

No we can't. Positive news is that Senate is looking great for us. The first woman President geek tragedy Oct 2012 #36

Carter Had A Much Worse Economy And The Ayatollah Was Clowning Us DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #40

Certainly the scale won't approach 1980--it'll be close. geek tragedy Oct 2012 #42

The Country Was In Much Worse Shape In 1980 DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #43

I agree with things you've said in this thread, but "he hasn't prepared"???? jsmirman Oct 2012 #65

I do feel you DonCoquixote Oct 2012 #55

So, your post is an attempt at demonstrating you were mzmolly Oct 2012 #27

And what do you suppose this is going to do? CthulhusEvilCousin Oct 2012 #33

have you ever had a bad day, when people expected a lot of you Voice for Peace Oct 2012 #70

I have never gone into a job interview without a basic plan to tout my past geek tragedy Oct 2012 #89

Is it possible you are assuming more than you actually know? Voice for Peace Oct 2012 #91

That stupid fucking debate needs to go away BeyondGeography Oct 2012 #29

Seriously. It's been tearing all of us up inside for a week budkin Oct 2012 #50

NBC News/WSJ/Marist Poll Ohio - October 11, 2012 mzmolly Oct 2012 #34

Thank you for posting this. UrbScotty Oct 2012 #37

You are most mzmolly Oct 2012 #59

I still have hope in Ohio MFM008 Oct 2012 #35

Ohio needs to stay within a point or two but Obama has a lead with early voting there. Jennicut Oct 2012 #56

Romney hasn't led in a single Ohio poll so far Blaukraut Oct 2012 #58

we need IA or NV for sure woolldog Oct 2012 #64

I have a great feeling about both of those states, especially Iowa budkin Oct 2012 #72

Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #57

betting against us? MFM008 Oct 2012 #60

betting against Obama! Please don't. hrmjustin Oct 2012 #63

It's almost as if people were anxiously *looking* for a reason to turn on us Azathoth Oct 2012 #69

Because the base validated the loss Maximumnegro Oct 2012 #71

I agree Azathoth Oct 2012 #74

Yep. LisaL Oct 2012 #75

You mean we don't default into that mode Maximumnegro Oct 2012 #79

Being gun-shy is part of it Azathoth Oct 2012 #93

better to help the opposition. genius. brindis_desala Oct 2012 #97

Unfortunately, progressives tend to run 180° in the opposite direction. Surya Gayatri Oct 2012 #86

Thank you for this frank and honest assessment, Maxi. Surya Gayatri Oct 2012 #85

Thank you so much, Maxi. . . daligirl519 Oct 2012 #90

ohio vadermike Oct 2012 #76

Please report to the Admins geek tragedy is now in violation of TOS rules DisabledAmerican Oct 2012 #77

Are they only doing 2 nights of polling? TroyD Oct 2012 #82

let go of the grudge. do you think you'll ever be able to?? MjolnirTime Oct 2012 #95

where is the poll? mgcgulfcoast Oct 2012 #96

They were teasing preliminary results of the first day FBaggins Oct 2012 #98

Obama 51-46 in Ohio (PPP) leads 76-24 with 19% early voters...How do you like them apples? Cali_Democrat Oct 2012 #99

I like 'em! Lex Oct 2012 #100

You don't mess with The Biden! Cali_Democrat Oct 2012 #101

Hope nobody's heartbroken by that poll! A-Schwarzenegger Oct 2012 #102

I guess you are crying in your milk tonight. LOL. morningfog Oct 2012 #103