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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Washington Post: Bernie Sanders is hijacking the Democratic Party to be elected as an independent [View all]kristopher
(29,798 posts)113. Just as Bernie is an FDR Dem, HRC is a NE Blue Blood Rockefeller Republican.
This excerpt from FDR's 1944 State of the Union helps define our situation by giving a benchmark for measuring which candidate is a true Democrat:
As our Nation has grown in size and stature, howeveras our industrial economy expandedthese political rights proved inadequate to assure us equality in the pursuit of happiness.
We have come to a clear realization of the fact that true individual freedom cannot exist without economic security and independence. "Necessitous men are not free men." People who are hungry and out of a job are the stuff of which dictatorships are made.
In our day these economic truths have become accepted as self-evident. We have accepted, so to speak, a second Bill of Rights under which a new basis of security and prosperity can be established for all regardless of station, race, or creed.
Among these are:
The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the Nation;
The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;
The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;
The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;
The right of every family to a decent home;
The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;
The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;
The right to a good education.
All of these rights spell security. And after this war is won we must be prepared to move forward, in the implementation of these rights, to new goals of human happiness and well-being.
America's own rightful place in the world depends in large part upon how fully these and similar rights have been carried into practice for our citizens. For unless there is security here at home there cannot be lasting peace in the world.
One of the great American industrialists of our daya man who has rendered yeoman service to his country in this crisis-recently emphasized the grave dangers of "rightist reaction" in this Nation. All clear-thinking businessmen share his concern. Indeed, if such reaction should developif history were to repeat itself and we were to return to the so-called "normalcy" of the 1920'sthen it is certain that even though we shall have conquered our enemies on the battlefields abroad, we shall have yielded to the spirit of Fascism here at home.
I ask the Congress to explore the means for implementing this economic bill of rights- for it is definitely the responsibility of the Congress so to do. Many of these problems are already before committees of the Congress in the form of proposed legislation. I shall from time to time communicate with the Congress with respect to these and further proposals. In the event that no adequate program of progress is evolved, I am certain that the Nation will be conscious of the fact.
Our fighting men abroad- and their families at home- expect such a program and have the right to insist upon it. It is to their demands that this Government should pay heed rather than to the whining demands of selfish pressure groups who seek to feather their nests while young Americans are dying.
http://www.fdrlibrary.marist.edu/archives/address_text.html
We have come to a clear realization of the fact that true individual freedom cannot exist without economic security and independence. "Necessitous men are not free men." People who are hungry and out of a job are the stuff of which dictatorships are made.
In our day these economic truths have become accepted as self-evident. We have accepted, so to speak, a second Bill of Rights under which a new basis of security and prosperity can be established for all regardless of station, race, or creed.
Among these are:
The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the Nation;
The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;
The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;
The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;
The right of every family to a decent home;
The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;
The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;
The right to a good education.
All of these rights spell security. And after this war is won we must be prepared to move forward, in the implementation of these rights, to new goals of human happiness and well-being.
America's own rightful place in the world depends in large part upon how fully these and similar rights have been carried into practice for our citizens. For unless there is security here at home there cannot be lasting peace in the world.
One of the great American industrialists of our daya man who has rendered yeoman service to his country in this crisis-recently emphasized the grave dangers of "rightist reaction" in this Nation. All clear-thinking businessmen share his concern. Indeed, if such reaction should developif history were to repeat itself and we were to return to the so-called "normalcy" of the 1920'sthen it is certain that even though we shall have conquered our enemies on the battlefields abroad, we shall have yielded to the spirit of Fascism here at home.
I ask the Congress to explore the means for implementing this economic bill of rights- for it is definitely the responsibility of the Congress so to do. Many of these problems are already before committees of the Congress in the form of proposed legislation. I shall from time to time communicate with the Congress with respect to these and further proposals. In the event that no adequate program of progress is evolved, I am certain that the Nation will be conscious of the fact.
Our fighting men abroad- and their families at home- expect such a program and have the right to insist upon it. It is to their demands that this Government should pay heed rather than to the whining demands of selfish pressure groups who seek to feather their nests while young Americans are dying.
To compare and contrast John D. Rockefeller's view of how the world is supposed to be organized you could read this HistorydotCom review http://www.history.com/topics/john-d-rockefeller
Or you could just watch Hillary and Bill Clinton in action.
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Washington Post: Bernie Sanders is hijacking the Democratic Party to be elected as an independent [View all]
kennetha
Mar 2016
OP
Yes, if not this time around, we will get there...and no mattter what I will always
Jefferson23
Mar 2016
#57
The DLC /Clinton intent was moderate GOP infiltration of the Democratic Party
musiclawyer
Mar 2016
#85
They should if the independent is closer to Dem values than the "life-long Dem" is.
Ken Burch
Mar 2016
#18
She is only a Repub to the far left. Repubs think she is a far left liberal.
LonePirate
Mar 2016
#80
Just as Bernie is an FDR Dem, HRC is a NE Blue Blood Rockefeller Republican.
kristopher
Mar 2016
#113
WAPO put up 16 anti Sanders stories in 16 hours. I grok why Hillary supporters love it.
merrily
Mar 2016
#7
Um, my post was factual. The problem seems to be your failure to know a fact when you see one.
merrily
Mar 2016
#15
Not the corporation, but the DLC spirit lives on in the Clintons and the DNC is the DNC/DLC now.
merrily
Mar 2016
#22
Democrats who left the party have re-registered to vote for Sanders in the primary. Do not imagine
merrily
Mar 2016
#25
Haha! Even Hercules would wince at the prospect of cleaning up the mess you made
RufusTFirefly
Mar 2016
#24
Madfloridian wrote a great OP on how they called the DLC takeover a bloodless revolution
Dragonfli
Mar 2016
#98
Living in Florida, watching what Debbie Wasserman-DINO does - I'll have what Bernie is
djean111
Mar 2016
#42
How is that different from "Democrats" hijacking the Dem Party to be elected as Republicans?
Triana
Mar 2016
#59
YAY!!!! Go BERNIE. I'd back you as an Independent, I'd back you as a Democrat.
TalkingDog
Mar 2016
#61
Good article-It is clear that Sanders will have a difficult time flipping super delegates
Gothmog
Mar 2016
#79
It was ALREADY hijacked by the DLC/Corporatists. Bernie is helping to take it back. n/t
Skwmom
Mar 2016
#83
He is hijacking nothing, he has faithfully caucused with the democrats for years
Dragonfli
Mar 2016
#89
He is running as a Democrat, you are really reaching with this one, and you damn well know it
Dragonfli
Mar 2016
#94
Then who are all these people who are voting for him in democratic primaries and caucuses?
lumberjack_jeff
Mar 2016
#100
They didn't call it hijacking the 60 million years he caucus with the democrats in congress
Cobalt Violet
Mar 2016
#106
It's about time someone took the Democratic party back from its Old-Republican overlords.
JackRiddler
Mar 2016
#110
Exactly when was it that Democratic Socialists Controlled the Democratic Party again?
kennetha
Mar 2016
#124
Really, you don't seem to understand the breadth and complexity and variety of FDR
kennetha
Mar 2016
#142
Controlled the party or considered themselves sufficiently represented by the Party?
shawn703
Mar 2016
#129
no he's more of democratic SOCIALIST than any other democrat. Why do you keep dropping that part?
kennetha
Mar 2016
#138
Jeff Bezos and the Clinton's hijacked the Democratic Party in the 90s. Time for a FDR Democrat to
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
Mar 2016
#149