2016 Postmortem

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(68,868 posts) Mon Apr 4, 2016, 12:31 AM Apr 2016

"Until they release full returns, this exercise is more about politics than real transparency,” [View all]

Last edited Mon Apr 4, 2016, 11:16 AM - Edit history (1)

Is this kind of statement indicative of people holding politicians accountable on transparency and disclosure, or is it just something David Brock invented so he could attack Bernie Sanders?

I'd like to see where the DU community stands on whether the demand for transparency in tax returns is legit and should be/already is expected of all candidates for President, or something that has been ginned up conveniently this past week to support the Clinton campaign.

Post title is a direct quote from an article criticizing Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz for a similar lack of full disclosure:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/marco-rubio-tax-returns-219905

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	Real transparency is full transparency, partial transparency is not good enough
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	Fake issue invented by David Brock and Blue Nation Review hacks to attack Bernie
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"Until they release full returns, this exercise is more about politics than real transparency,” [View all] geek tragedy Apr 2016 OP

It's been the standard for a while now. n/t Lucinda Apr 2016 #1

that is my understanding. But apparently Sanders supporters here disagree and think geek tragedy Apr 2016 #2

Well we do have a lot of brand spankin new Dems this cycle, so maybe Lucinda Apr 2016 #3

Asdf geek tragedy Apr 2016 #15

KICK! Cha Apr 2016 #4

Same goes for speech transcripts. Let's see them. nichomachus Apr 2016 #5

I don't think he wants people to see how much he made Perogie Apr 2016 #6

If he has nothing to hide .... nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #10

Your subject line is perfect. Then you went and spoiled it with a CT. Sad. BlueCaliDem Apr 2016 #28

I don't think he wants people to see how much money he has invested in fracking CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #47

You got proof of that? Perogie Apr 2016 #49

Release the Wall Street speeches transcripts. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #7

non sequitur nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #9

yet germane. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #11

In that it shows hypocrisy on his part, yes nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #12

Not at all. I believe she set the standard for response times. We are still waiting, and waiting.. silvershadow Apr 2016 #13

She has already provided full disclosure of her taxes geek tragedy Apr 2016 #14

Oh I meant the transcripts. The tax thing is a red herring. Nice try to deflect. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #16

No, actually the tax disclosure is expected of all serious candidates geek tragedy Apr 2016 #17

I know. But your making it an issue is a red herring, meant to deflect. Every time taxes are silvershadow Apr 2016 #18

so you admit the transcripts thing is just a stunt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #19

No I don't admit anything you assert. I admit Hillary isn't much of a candidate to my party. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #21

She is to my party. I'm a Democrat nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #22

If you support her, you are Third Way, whether or not you know it. I'm talking about the Democratic silvershadow Apr 2016 #24

Spare me the sanctimony. Not everyone who supports Clinton is third way. nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #40

Her promise to release the transcripts as soon as she found the custodian WAS a stunt. silvershadow Apr 2016 #23

It's fake, just like the "transcripts" crap Recursion Apr 2016 #8

Bernie's only released his 2014 IRS summary (two pages) while Hillary's released her full IRS filing BlueCaliDem Apr 2016 #29

#Nailedit Agschmid Apr 2016 #35

Don't think either tax returns or speech transcripts are necessarily germane... Chichiri Apr 2016 #20

Filing date for 2015 isn't even here yet. silverweb Apr 2016 #25

Filing dates for 2008-2014 have already expired. nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #42

So? silverweb Apr 2016 #51

So he's delaying the release until after the NY primary? nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #54

Lame. silverweb Apr 2016 #56

Thanks to a Poster (thank you, amborin!) pugetres Apr 2016 #26

So you believe that Bernie is hiding his incredible success in...what? Is he hiding money? Is he BlueCaliDem Apr 2016 #32

I believe that the Clintons were not transparent pugetres Apr 2016 #33

And I believe Bernie Sanders isn't being transparent - which raises the trustworthy issue. BlueCaliDem Apr 2016 #55

So Bernie is hiding something like that? nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #41

Laughingly pathetic, nt artislife Apr 2016 #27

Didn't we demand Mitt Romney's full tax returns four years ago? radical noodle Apr 2016 #30

#NotUsThem SaschaHM Apr 2016 #34

But a bird landed on his podium !!! /sarcasm uponit7771 Apr 2016 #38

David Brock is a hack....Clinton never released her... pantsonfire Apr 2016 #31

the tax returns for the Clintons DO show DemonGoddess Apr 2016 #43

source? n/t pantsonfire Apr 2016 #48

44 pages DemonGoddess Apr 2016 #50

The candidates are required to release their tax returns, nothing new here. Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #36

Taxes and transcripts should be released by all candidates (nt) bigwillq Apr 2016 #37

I would hope Hillary supporters have enough imagination to come up with a new smear du jour. Vinca Apr 2016 #39

Well... Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #45

No one is asking DemonGoddess Apr 2016 #44

Indeed, it draws more attention to withhold the returns, because it's so standard at this point. CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #46

I think all this will prove pandr32 Apr 2016 #52

Sanders supporters don't care about transparency, they just care about attacking Hillary geek tragedy Apr 2016 #53

I know! It is a head scratcher--a huge unreasonable problem. pandr32 Apr 2016 #57