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Proud Liberal Dem

(24,487 posts)
24. Clinton has been winning/is expected to win
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 10:07 AM
Apr 2016

all of the big state primaries. Bernie has certainly racked up some good wins recently, albeit in smaller state caucuses, which has barely moved the needle in his direction. The nomination is essentially out of Bernie's reach at this point. If he wants to take it to the convention and fight for concessions or something, that's his choice but the majority of Democratic voters seem to prefer Hillary. Once the convention is over, left-leaning independents will HAVE to choose between (likely) Hillary and Donald Trump/Ted Cruz/John Kasich and there is no way in this reality or beyond to convince me or anybody else that a Hillary Presidency will be the same as (or worse than) a radical Republican Presidency lead by the aforementioned GOPers- even though it may not be everything that Bernie supporters think that it should be. I should also remind people that sitting at home and/or voting for Nader and helping enable Bush to win in 2000 didn't help us move the ball down further down the field on progressive issues for eight long years and refusing to vote for Hillary in the GE (if she is the nominee) will only help make it easier for Republicans to take the Presidency and hold Congress, giving us another 4-8 years of radical Republican policies, SCOTUS appointments, and foreign policy disasters and embarrassments, not to mention ZERO movement on progressive policy goals.

ffs, Sanders bigtree Apr 2016 #1
What kind of a lame organization is Sanders running anyway? workinclasszero Apr 2016 #40
Let me go get my flameproof suit... Retrograde Apr 2016 #56
Whatever Happened To 'We Live In A Democracy - One Person One Vote'?.... global1 Apr 2016 #2
Again Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2016 #3
+ 1 JoePhilly Apr 2016 #4
So Hillary Is Allowed To Change Her Mind On Any Issue But... global1 Apr 2016 #6
Nobody was denied Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2016 #12
Hair on fire CorkySt.Clair Apr 2016 #21
Wrong LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #23
It's rigged so the votes do not count! It's rigged so the ptb get their elite dynastic queen bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #33
I know, right... all american girl Apr 2016 #13
Because they were not yet involved in the process and had not the opportunity to know the bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #31
Voting for a party is not a right Tarc Apr 2016 #8
Everyone has a right to vote period! The party rules has to go! They are a form of control and bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #32
Everyone has the right to vote in a general election hack89 Apr 2016 #45
So sick of Sanders supporters Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #9
Yes it is just for democrats. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #34
We don't need no stinkin rules? workinclasszero Apr 2016 #41
He's lying. Of course young people can get involved. KitSileya Apr 2016 #5
You got that right. LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #29
Once a year ....you make it sound so logical. In Oct 2015 the candidates had not yet shown their bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #35
Anyone unaffiliated, a group he mentions specifically as being blocked from voting, KitSileya Apr 2016 #48
We were out last year, registering people and making them aware of this in NY state GreatGazoo Apr 2016 #7
The fact is... Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #10
Another 'Psychic for Hillary' GreatGazoo Apr 2016 #18
Do you realize how stupid it sounds to harp on the $100K earning voters thing when geek tragedy Apr 2016 #42
I prefer inciteful data to a relentless focus on skin color and name calling. GreatGazoo Apr 2016 #47
except you're making stuff up, which is the opposite of 'inciteful' (sic) geek tragedy Apr 2016 #49
why do you conflate AA and Hispanic voters with lower incomes? GreatGazoo Apr 2016 #52
there are states other than Massachusetts geek tragedy Apr 2016 #53
Good to hear that! Retrograde Apr 2016 #57
Hillary may enjoy closed primaries, but she'd feel the abject rejection of Independents in the GE Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #11
How is the party imploding? Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2016 #14
I don't see any unifying going on, only bridges that camp Clinton is burning. Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #15
Hillary has the majority of votes/delegates at present Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2016 #20
Actually, there are a lot of anti-establishment voters who'll tune out if we nominate Mrs Status-Quo Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #22
Clinton has been winning/is expected to win Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2016 #24
I find your sense of entitlement galling. Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #25
This has NOTHING to do with "entitlement" Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2016 #50
Oh please. Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #60
There are many Democrats that are not voting for Hillary. That Party you speak of is losing many bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #43
There is no rigging, coronation, dynasty's, etc. Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2016 #54
Independents are more moderate than hardcore Bernie supporters hack89 Apr 2016 #46
Debunked: more independents are found to the left of the Democratic Party than to its right. Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #59
They had a choice to make ... and they chose poorly. Lesson learned (one assumes). NurseJackie Apr 2016 #16
"it seems that your best chance of helping to shape and influence the rules would be to do so from bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #38
I can come up with 2 counterexamples off the top of my head Retrograde Apr 2016 #58
There is no one to blame here except the Independents who didn't change their affiliation.. DCBob Apr 2016 #17
Most Independents who want to support Sanders rather than Clinton have been and are registering. Orsino Apr 2016 #19
Hey, finally a version of this article that wasn't hidden by a BS jury! IamMab Apr 2016 #26
Why should someone who is not a member or even a supporter of a political party Bad Dog Apr 2016 #27
Except the ones who have registered as Democrats AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #28
So disingenuous... DemocracyDirect Apr 2016 #30
The reason why the Democratic party needs to start respecting independents beedle Apr 2016 #36
Our system is no better than the smoke-filled room of old. alarimer Apr 2016 #37
I'm not opposed to the rule, but... these people CAN vote in the GE lagomorph777 Apr 2016 #39
NO SHIT SHERLOCK????????? 99Forever Apr 2016 #44
Sanders lied again Renew Deal Apr 2016 #51
I find it absurd that Hillary supporters say only Dems should vote in the primary and then bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #55
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