2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Observer: The Troubling Friendship of Hillary Clinton and George W. Bush [View all]bvar22
(39,909 posts)They both have no qualms, conscience, or regrets about bombing, killing, maiming, and displacing hundreds of thousands (Millions?) of innocent people in countries that haven't and couldn't threaten us.
AND,
if the locals resist our bombings, invasions, looting, and privatizing, we brand them as "insurgents" and get to hold them indefinitely in dog kennels without access to lawyers or a trial. And if we feel like it, we send them to a country that DOES torture (rendition) to them a lesson.
That kind of blood don't wash off.
Both refused to sign an International Ban on Cluster Munitions...the thousands of little bomblets of which about 10% don't explode until a child picks one up years later and looses their hands, arms, or lives.
I hardly call this "moderate" foreign policy.
Putin's occupation of the Ukraine was much more "moderate" that what we have done in the Middle East and Latin America.