2016 Postmortem

StevieM

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20. You are misunderstanding what I am saying.

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:21 AM

Apr 2016

First of all, the poster asked if Skinner should call it. Regardless of what other posters say, Skinner is not going to do that while the primary season is not ongoing. He didn't eight years ago and he won't today.

Second, it is not a loyalty oath. It simply means that once Hillary becomes the presumptive nominee her critics on the board will have one week to tone the Hillary-bashing down. Because at that point the mission of the board will become to elect her as the next president of the United States.

Sanders supporters will still have the right to sing his praises and to advocate for the policy direction that they want for America. They just won't be allowed to put up excessively anti-Hillary posts.

Those were also the rules eight years ago when Obama secured the nomination.

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Simple solution Skinner, a POLL, should Skinner "Call It"??? [View all] Logical Apr 2016 OP

I don't know what this means. oldandhappy Apr 2016 #1

The poster is asking if Skinner should declare Hillary the presumptive nominee StevieM Apr 2016 #9

But what does THAT mean, exactly? Smarmie Doofus Apr 2016 #11

The one week countdown refers to a period that begins right after StevieM Apr 2016 #24

It means a large number of people will leave or be thrown off DU. greymouse Apr 2016 #45

Not really Andy823 Apr 2016 #94

greymouse, it doesn't look like you were here in 2008. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #106

It means DU Hillary supporters are looking for the purge to happen and get the TransitJohn Apr 2016 #118

But they seem to comprise about a 1/4 of the board? Smarmie Doofus Apr 2016 #122

More like about 1/10th. John Poet Apr 2016 #123

And who knows how many remaining after the $1 million runs out. GoneFishin Apr 2016 #129

It means that 17% of DU wants to purge the remaining 83%. Good luck with that one . . . nt leveymg Apr 2016 #153

There isn't going to be a purge. It simply means that one week after we have StevieM Apr 2016 #157

It means party unity philosslayer Apr 2016 #149

That's pretty vague. Intentionally so? Smarmie Doofus Apr 2016 #156

This is the Democratic Underground philosslayer Apr 2016 #158

I asked three relatively simple questions. Smarmie Doofus Apr 2016 #159

ok I'll play Matt_R Apr 2016 #162

Really ? oldandhappy Apr 2016 #12

You are misunderstanding what I am saying. StevieM Apr 2016 #20

OK Makes sense. oldandhappy Apr 2016 #23

with 10 states yet to vote that would be against everything DU stands for PatrynXX Apr 2016 #26

I agree. Skinner shouldn't--and won't--"call it" until the voting is over. StevieM Apr 2016 #34

I do not have to rally behind a candidate that I do not believe in RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #79

You bet. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #107

And, fwiw, after a GREAT many Bernie supporters have been driven out of DU. snot Apr 2016 #2

well hard to scare me away PatrynXX Apr 2016 #29

yes but as an alternative - commondreams.org will take you Unicorn Apr 2016 #59

Have you checked this out? jackpineradicals.org n/t RKP5637 Apr 2016 #78

I'm there. snot Apr 2016 #144

I'll be coming over too, just haven't done it yet. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2016 #146

I've posted there a few times, I was pointed it out, I think the day I got here. Unicorn Apr 2016 #154

You decide. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #108

It's not so much following the rules Gore1FL Apr 2016 #126

Won't make the least difference one way or another. ucrdem Apr 2016 #3

Two out of three seems likely. Chan790 Apr 2016 #4

seems a bit premature nt cloudythescribbler Apr 2016 #7

I find it hard to believe that Hillary will be a worse president than StevieM Apr 2016 #14

Hopefuly she'd suck less than W. That's a very low bar... think Apr 2016 #27

At least Hillary is getting off her ass and raising money for downticket Dems. MADem Apr 2016 #31

Is she? Scootaloo Apr 2016 #41

No, it isn't. The bulk of the dough raised at those shindigs go to the PARTY, not the headliner. MADem Apr 2016 #60

Who oversees distribution? Scootaloo Apr 2016 #62

The Party. The headliner gets a cut, the headliner does not control the cash at all. nt MADem Apr 2016 #63

So is NPR just full of shit, then? Scootaloo Apr 2016 #64

You weren't talking about the HVF--you were talking about the DNC agreed-upon fundraisers. MADem Apr 2016 #66

It looks as though I were confusing two separate things, then Scootaloo Apr 2016 #119

Corporate money Carolina Apr 2016 #48

For winners of the primary contests, so they can compete in the general election. MADem Apr 2016 #58

So let me remind you of Carolina Apr 2016 #61

Nope. When Lamont won the primary the Clintons switched their support to him. StevieM Apr 2016 #115

I like Bernie, voted for him, but I agree with you on Hillary. The US could RKP5637 Apr 2016 #84

Well if she ignores the Convention in July maybe PatrynXX Apr 2016 #33

I don't see her getting elected once let alone twice. nt artislife Apr 2016 #36

She doesn't need to win for the internet to hate her for even one day...let alone 8 years. Chan790 Apr 2016 #39

Kasich? talk about the road less travelled. How will he machete out his path to victory? Hiraeth Apr 2016 #88

No idea. Chan790 Apr 2016 #91

gotta admit - shit just got really interesting. in a hopeless sorta way but, interesting nonetheless Hiraeth Apr 2016 #92

Let me explain how your theory will play out in real life. StevieM Apr 2016 #121

Oh Stevie. Chan790 Apr 2016 #148

Well, back in 2008 I was also told that I should be ashamed. I responded that supporting StevieM Apr 2016 #150

Funny you say that. Chan790 Apr 2016 #155

yes, one of the worst greymouse Apr 2016 #46

That is a terrible pic of Hillary! There are much better ones. Nt Logical Apr 2016 #8

Oof, agree! Scootaloo Apr 2016 #42

Sometimes a Great Notion ucrdem Apr 2016 #71

He called it the day he placed Clinton supporters above the TOS. Scootaloo Apr 2016 #5

True Ned_Devine Apr 2016 #10

👆 this lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #13

You mean the day he ... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #19

No, I mean the day he decided trolls should be free to troll on DU. Scootaloo Apr 2016 #35

Well I disagree. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #43

I once got a hide for telling a person who was literally supporting Adolf Hitler to GTFO. Scootaloo Apr 2016 #50

Well ... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #54

Except, as noted, it didn't happen Scootaloo Apr 2016 #56

Plus a brazillion. opiate69 Apr 2016 #133

Broken? Only if your a rude hill supporter. Ny Logical Apr 2016 #137

Nah. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #138

If Skinner 'calls it', ... HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #6

For Christ sakes! Stop ringing that cockamamie bell! longship Apr 2016 #15

The clinton team is talking about unity. oldandhappy Apr 2016 #16

Why does this Skinner thing have the name of an X-File character? quantumjunkie Apr 2016 #17

I'm going to defend Skinner here. PyaarRevolution Apr 2016 #18

I am a Bernie supporter! Nt Logical Apr 2016 #21

Sorry it's not you. PyaarRevolution Apr 2016 #22

You are correct! Nt Logical Apr 2016 #25

EVERYBODY has lately been harrased by Hillary supporters. n/t Binkie The Clown Apr 2016 #30

Well, you know the saying, if you give an inch... Scootaloo Apr 2016 #38

I don't care if he Tweets it. I'll remain resolute. desmiller Apr 2016 #28

Why are you so afraid of Bernie's continued candidacy? Of letting all the Democrats have their say? highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #32

We had to register for that tent back in October. artislife Apr 2016 #37

I truly pray that the smallmindedness on both sides, but in this case on the Hillary side, ceases. highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #44

I am a lifelong Dem who is almost completely out the door now artislife Apr 2016 #47

Sorry for the misinformation. Kudos to lifelong Dem and Bernie supporter. I agree that the highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #51

It's probably Hillary vs. Trump. I do think she is going to have a hard time RKP5637 Apr 2016 #86

So true! Nt Logical Apr 2016 #89

What or whom is he calling? Rex Apr 2016 #40

I think international. They have great rates right now. nt RepubliCON-Watch Apr 2016 #49

Skinner has a bigger risk in this...let him decide on his own. n/t Contrary1 Apr 2016 #52

Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #53

Your poll is scewed toward the group with the most members. procon Apr 2016 #55

true...theres a ton of pro bernie-anti dem trolls here qdouble Apr 2016 #57

There are 4 troll pro-bernie accounts for every 1 genuine pro-Hillary account qdouble Apr 2016 #65

Do you have any hard data to back that up Art_from_Ark Apr 2016 #80

qdouble, DU member for 5 weeks knows everything @ DU, Art riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #139

Really? blackspade Apr 2016 #134

I'm a Californian AND I HAVEN'T VOTED YET! Peace Patriot Apr 2016 #67

I'm a Californian too and in total agreement with you. I'm sick and tired of us Raine Apr 2016 #68

Yeah, if the primaries would start in CA, NY, FL, TX on the first day, JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2016 #72

Uh, in 2008 CA voted on Super Tuesday, early in the cycle and CA voted for Hillary. Barack won Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #98

2008 was strange. Hillary got most of the votes, but lost on delegates. JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2016 #109

+1 jack_krass Apr 2016 #125

Frankly Sherman A1 Apr 2016 #69

If it's a question, I don't want to be here Joob Apr 2016 #70

Does DWS post under the name "Skinner"? JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2016 #73

DWS probably goes by the handle "RepublicanInDisguise" if she is honest in her self-naming. Gore1FL Apr 2016 #127

Continuing the charade of the Sanders Campaign at this point just helps Republicans. baldguy Apr 2016 #74

Bernie needs to stay in until the last primary is over. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #75

Skinner shouldn't call anything until the party does. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #76

Looks like a couple hundred DUers aren't done insulting HRC just yet. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #77

And that is exactly the point. NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #141

+1 Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #142

Your post was alerted airplaneman Apr 2016 #161

LOL! Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #81

Whether Bernie could somehow pull it off, or not, he is in it to build our movement! Dustlawyer Apr 2016 #82

That would be the Hillary way ... AirmensMom Apr 2016 #83

No. He should let the board descend further into chaos and internecine warfare over a settled manner DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #85

The board is fine, groups of people who thinks thier candidate is best. Nt Logical Apr 2016 #90

Who cares? I doubt whether or not "it's called" will be an earth-shaking event. Vinca Apr 2016 #87

To what specific* end? LanternWaste Apr 2016 #93

Not unless the party has LWolf Apr 2016 #95

What Skinner does is up to Skinner. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #96

Problem with that, Hillary keeps promoting Republicans: Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #99

1) Clinton is not a member here. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #100

voting no. Amimnoch Apr 2016 #97

Unrec. You should delete this post. haikugal Apr 2016 #101

From here on out Skinner should dump anyone asking him to call it. peace13 Apr 2016 #102

Dear Skinner, the poll results clearly show why you should call it. Trust Buster Apr 2016 #103

Quit whining! Hides dont matter! Nt Logical Apr 2016 #136

Are you dizzy from all that spinning? B Calm Apr 2016 #147

Oh lord Scootaloo Apr 2016 #160

I say no rock Apr 2016 #104

That's an ugly sentiment. Turin_C3PO Apr 2016 #112

I'm an ugly guy rock Apr 2016 #120

Lol. Turin_C3PO Apr 2016 #128

OK, I'm not as mean as I look rock Apr 2016 #130

Thanks! Turin_C3PO Apr 2016 #131

kick Segami Apr 2016 #105

At what point in 2008 did he do so? treestar Apr 2016 #110

I think it was after the last of the primaries had their vote but before the convention n/t musicblind Apr 2016 #143

Not until the primaries are over. (nt) Turin_C3PO Apr 2016 #111

Its still Bernie Underground aikoaiko Apr 2016 #113

85-15 again Dem2 Apr 2016 #114

It's his choice to make. Once he does this place will probably be a ghost town. nt NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #116

If he does, he'll lose a lot of money TransitJohn Apr 2016 #117

I didn't know Skinner had this power. Gore1FL Apr 2016 #124

Looks like the NO's have it! B Calm Apr 2016 #132

85% skinner! Nt Logical Apr 2016 #135

People asking Skinner to "call it" are fascists. earthshine Apr 2016 #140

It's a right-wing authoritarian point of view. B Calm Apr 2016 #145

Call it, friendo. Gomez163 Apr 2016 #151

Call it, maybe. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2016 #152

2nd stage grief: "bargaining" ProgressiveEconomist Apr 2016 #163

Lol, i dont think you know what that word means! Hill fans love whining! Nt Logical Apr 2016 #166

Call it and immediately turn the time outs back on for those with active transparency pages Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #164

No, because we're not finished. senz Apr 2016 #165

Call it Friendo stevenleser Apr 2016 #167

Not a fan of you but this is funny. Nt Logical Apr 2016 #168