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Showing Original Post only (View all)Donald Trump can actually beat Hillary in November: Stubborn pundits still refuse to accept it [View all]
from Salon:
Donald Trump can actually beat Hillary in November: Stubborn pundits still refuse to accept it
Polls have Hillary beating Trump in swing states, but the billionaire is far more popular than we'd like to believe
Sean Illing
Pundits are paid to pretend they know things. But we have no special insight, no higher claims to truth. Were wrong as much as were right, if not more so. Sometimes its clear what will happen, often its not. In the case of Trump, everyone myself included got it wrong.
When Trump descended preposterously from that escalator and announced he was running for president, we all giggled. Trump? President? Seriously? And yet all the polls suggested that he had real traction. But we assumed his star would fade. Then he started winning primaries by massive margins. We downplayed it. Then he made one gaffe after another insulting John McCains military service, hurling a menstruation jab at Megyn Kelly, calling Mexicans rapists and criminals, promising to ban all Muslims from entering the country. He even vicariously called Ted Cruz a pussy.
None of it mattered. Trump is now on track to receive the most primary votes in the history of the Republican Party. Let that sink in for a moment.
The political class is experiencing a collective cognitive dissonance: We just cant quite believe this is happening. And yet it is happening right now, in front of our faces. Barring something extraordinary, Trump will be the Republican nominee. Will he win the general election? Probably not. But he absolutely could win, and willing ourselves to ignorance wont make it any less likely.
.....(snip).....
The truth is that Trump is far more popular than wed like to believe. A recent NBC News/SurveyMonkey poll, for example, showed that Trump reached 50 percent approval among Republicans and Republican-leaners nationally for the first time since the poll started tracking in late December. Hes trending upwards, in other words.
As for this claim that there arent enough xenophobic, angry white people to elect Trump, well, thats not so clear either. This is likely the case, but I wouldnt bet the house on it. Take Trumps outrageous comments about banning Muslims. Such an obscene and unconstitutional position ought to sink his campaign. However, as Byron York noted this week, take a look at the exit polls from recent Republican primaries. Voters arent just sympathetic to Trumps proposal they support it overwhelmingly. 69 percent of GOP voters in Pennsylvania said they agree with Trump. The number was 68 percent in New York; 69 percent in Wisconsin; 64 percent in Florida; 68 percent in Georgia; 65 percent in Ohio; and 65 percent in New Hampshire. These numbers will be significantly lower in a general election, but theyre high enough to dim the excitement of anyone who thinks Trumps xenophobia is a deal-breaker. ......................(more)
http://www.salon.com/2016/04/29/donald_trump_can_actually_beat_hillary_in_november_stubborn_pundits_still_refuse_to_accept_it/
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Donald Trump can actually beat Hillary in November: Stubborn pundits still refuse to accept it [View all]
marmar
Apr 2016
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Same can be said of a Sanders nomination. Needless to say, I disagree with Salon again.
Trust Buster
Apr 2016
#1
Kaisch does better than Trump against Clinton, Sanders really does well- landslide territory
Baobab
May 2016
#25
Well evidently it is working because the "presumptive nominee" of March of 2015 still hasn't
silvershadow
May 2016
#31
The media will be relentlessly pushing Trump on us to make it appear we have a horserace.
DCBob
Apr 2016
#12
No one should take Trump lightly. RW demagogues can be awesome campaigners. Offering up scapegoats
pampango
May 2016
#38
"As for this claim that there aren’t enough “xenophobic, angry white” people
sufrommich
May 2016
#46
David Axelrod called T a "sheep in wolf's clothing" who can switch back and forth
amborin
May 2016
#50