Are you old enough to remember real Dem's?

[Lydia Leftcoast]

192. Please stick to the subject, which is NOT "general conditions in the 1970s"

The subject is how the Dems used to put forward initiatives to help ordinary people and now let the Republicans steamroller them or, even worse, sign on to bad Republican ideas, such as the Iraq War or the Patriot Act.

The ACA, originally a Republican idea, is timid compared to such monumental achievements as Social Security, Medicare, the G.I.Bill, and the Civil Rights Act.

They changed the direction of this country.

Now it's all lame excuses. We can't do this or that "because it would never pass Congress."

I'm old enough to remember how hard it was to pass the Civil Rights Bill. But the Dems did it anyway because it was the right thing to do.

There were even objections to Medicare from the Republican side, but the Dems pushed it through anyway.

Where is that kind of courage and determination? Certainly not Obama, because he didn't even try to force the Blue Dogs to allow a public option in the ACA.

Hell, even Reagan, dumb as he was, knew how to get what he wanted. Bush got what he wanted.

Unfortunately, both got their way with the outright complicity of many Democrats.

THAT is what we are talking about.