2016 Postmortem

trudyco

(1,258 posts)

99. I refuse to act like a Repuke

Tue May 31, 2016, 05:50 PM

May 2016

and fall in line just to fall in line. If Clinton is the nominee then the 2016 party isn't the Democratic Party I've been supporting for over 3 decades. There is no reason for a sane person to support her. She's corrupt, unethical. That's obvious. Not sure if she will get indicted but she should. As far as I know the only one who pulled shenanigans in 2008 was Clinton and Podesta, so for the PUMAs to get on board with Obama was reasonable. Getting on board with the Clinton Dynasty in 2016 is not reasonable.

As for your implication that if I don't swallow the Clinton poison pill I'm not a real Democrat - I think I'll show my democratic leanings more down ticket. There are some local candidates and propositions to support. There are progressive candidates in other locales I will financially support. But not the corrupt corporatists. My eyes are wide open, I'm spreading the word, and so far nobody I know voting for Bernie is going to support Clinton in the GE. Nobody trusts her. Why should they?

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How many Sanders supporters were Obama supporters in 2008 [View all] realmirage May 2016 OP

Me!! And I really didn't think much about the PUMAs. I knew some would come around & others jillan May 2016 #1

Love it! realmirage May 2016 #3

Funny annavictorious May 2016 #157

Lol. jillan May 2016 #160

The only PUMAs were a handful of whiners online. onehandle May 2016 #2

Bernie or Buest is more than just online HerbChestnut May 2016 #73

Same grandstanding shit we saw when cameras are on people as we did in 2008. onehandle May 2016 #94

That attitude, right there, doesn't help HerbChestnut May 2016 #95

Save your breath. TheCowsCameHome May 2016 #119

I was an Obama supporter in 2008 and I thought a variety of things about PUMAs, merrily May 2016 #4

Here come the mental gymnastics! realmirage May 2016 #6

I never looked at it that way, but thought and analysis can seem like mental gymnastics to some, I merrily May 2016 #11

So when others are PUMAs it's silly realmirage May 2016 #23

First, link to where I did "it." Second, you obviously don't "got it" at all merrily May 2016 #33

You are implying that today's PUMAs are realmirage May 2016 #36

LOL. Please see Reply 35. The only strange thing is your inability to merrily May 2016 #39

lol. n/t. okieinpain May 2016 #89

You too? CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #15

How so? OwlinAZ May 2016 #158

At a rally in CA a couple of weeks ago LoverOfLiberty May 2016 #55

Did he tell them that their lives would be more secure if they voted for Trump? merrily May 2016 #66

Ho hum LoverOfLiberty May 2016 #70

Huh? I made nothing up. It was in all the papers in 2008, literally. On TV and the net, too. merrily May 2016 #110

I remember that stopwastingmymoney May 2016 #166

She sure did. SusanCalvin May 2016 #108

PUMAs weren't sticking with Clinton for ideological reasons. (nt) w4rma May 2016 #5

So your ideology is not one of a Democrat? realmirage May 2016 #10

No, PUMAs were part of Clinton's cult of personality. (nt) w4rma May 2016 #17

You said you won't vote for the democrat because realmirage May 2016 #19

No, I didn't. You're making that up out of thin air. Go away with your strawmen. (nt) w4rma May 2016 #22

Your post implies that you have ideological reasons realmirage May 2016 #28

I do have ideological reasons for not supporting Hillary in the primary. And I also have tactical w4rma May 2016 #57

It's as I said. You don't support the Democratic Party realmirage May 2016 #65

I support FDR Democrats. I do not support the Rockefeller Republican carpetbaggers. (nt) w4rma May 2016 #168

LOL! whenever a reply starts with "So" and totally rewords the post it supposedly replies to, merrily May 2016 #35

When a post starts with LOL! realmirage May 2016 #37

Actually, it usually means I find another poster amusing or lame or both. merrily May 2016 #48

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la-de-dah OwlinAZ May 2016 #159

Reluctantly. Not holding my nose any more to vote for corporatist candidates, though. JimDandy May 2016 #7

In other words realmirage May 2016 #14

No. Just what I said: I am not voting for corporatist candidates any more. JimDandy May 2016 #21

Me, and I thought then as I do now…PUMAs are spiteful idiots. blm May 2016 #8

When I see you telling Bernie fanatics realmirage May 2016 #16

Apparently you haven't kept up. I am fair to both sides when they are being unjustly targeted blm May 2016 #25

Link to any post realmirage May 2016 #31

LOLOLOL - blm May 2016 #42

Link please realmirage May 2016 #60

I'm Vouching for blm's seriousness and fair-mindedness emulatorloo May 2016 #59

Link please and I will give immediate respect to him realmirage May 2016 #62

I am not your research assistant emulatorloo May 2016 #64

Then don't expect strangers to just take your word realmirage May 2016 #67

All you're proving is that certain newer 'members' are demanding others prove their word because you blm May 2016 #78

Link please realmirage May 2016 #81

Go ask in the HRC group if you don't choose to take me at my word. blm May 2016 #96

I don't know you, so the tiniest effort on your part realmirage May 2016 #97

Why do you think you have trained puppets here? MyNameGoesHere May 2016 #90

Hear, hear (nt) TacoD May 2016 #129

+1 nt chknltl May 2016 #165

I voted for Obama every time Ferd Berfel May 2016 #9

It's not the individual; it's the system. Garrett78 May 2016 #49

Curious: can you understand the pro-Kucinich anti-Clinton people? JonLeibowitz May 2016 #61

Sure. Garrett78 May 2016 #112

Me. I rejected HRC for the same reasons I don't support her today Press Virginia May 2016 #12

This time, you're the PUMA realmirage May 2016 #18

Do what? Press Virginia May 2016 #27

When you're the PUMA realmirage May 2016 #29

I won't work against her but as far as supporting her, "I'll look into it" Press Virginia May 2016 #38

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I really didn't give much thought to the PUMAs but I do remember being entertained by their website Matt_in_STL May 2016 #13

Bwahahaha! Those PUMAs have discovered time travel. I could have sworn I was in valerief May 2016 #52

Me. TheCowsCameHome May 2016 #20

So PUMAs are ok as long as you realmirage May 2016 #40

I don't tell anyone whom to vote for. That is their Downwinder May 2016 #63

This site is called Democratic Underground realmirage May 2016 #68

Who's criticizing? If you're not voting for the Democratic Nominee you choose to help the GOP realmirage May 2016 #117

Bush OFF. Downwinder May 2016 #128

Democrats to save America from Frankentrump. Join the only party that can do this realmirage May 2016 #134

This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #106

So you're saying that those who weren't members of this forum in 08 were in another dimension realmirage May 2016 #116

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Again, you alright? realmirage May 2016 #146

PUMAs were obsessed with gender. Bernie voters are obsessed with the future of the country. senz May 2016 #24

Great answer. Dawgs May 2016 #43

They still are... coco77 May 2016 #74

True. It's the only thing that counts senz May 2016 #75

I have been on DU for years... coco77 May 2016 #77

I was, and I didn't care.... its their vote, do as they please. JPnoodleman May 2016 #26

I was and remain confused about what they were pissed about, the ideological divide TheKentuckian May 2016 #30

Voted for Obama both times. Downwinder May 2016 #32

So when you are the PUMA you are realmirage May 2016 #44

Hillary supporter in 2008. Bernie supporter 2016. Nothing to think about, Obama won easily and other Autumn May 2016 #34

So you'll be supporting Hillary? realmirage May 2016 #45

No I will not support her. As for my vote, that is none of your business. nt Autumn May 2016 #50

So not supporting the Democratic Party is realmirage May 2016 #54

Did I say that? Why no, I did not fucking say that. You asked if I would support her, I said Autumn May 2016 #71

If you don't vote Hillary you are voting against a liberal SCOTUS realmirage May 2016 #80

I see where the confusion is, in your mind Hillary IS the democratic party. That's why you keep Autumn May 2016 #109

A vote is support, at least on a basic level realmirage May 2016 #114

Me and didn't think about PUMA's much. Dawgs May 2016 #41

So not supporting the Democratic Party realmirage May 2016 #53

Uh, I didn't say anything like that, at all. Dawgs May 2016 #69

Yeah you did. realmirage May 2016 #126

No I did not. nt Dawgs May 2016 #149

With your type of thinking there is no honor, there is no reason, there is no conscience. OwlinAZ May 2016 #161

They came around Demsrule86 May 2016 #46

I was an Obama supporter in 2008 & 2012 and helped Jarqui May 2016 #47

I tried not to think of the PUMAs. I was a Kucinich supporter. nt valerief May 2016 #51

Edwards campaign worker SheenaR May 2016 #56

I supported the Kooch in '08. Philly-Union-Man May 2016 #58

Apples and Oranges trudyco May 2016 #72

Not supporting the Democratic Party is the same realmirage May 2016 #83

I refuse to act like a Repuke trudyco May 2016 #99

You can rationalize it all you want. Either you're a Democrat or you're choosing to help the GOP realmirage May 2016 #100

I was an Obama supporter... ljm2002 May 2016 #76

So when others are PUMA they must have realmirage May 2016 #84

I did not say I'm a PUMA... ljm2002 Jun 2016 #170

Your analogy would make more sense if Eric J in MN May 2016 #79

I've seen few Sanders supporters speak out forcefully against realmirage May 2016 #85

Someone can dislike HRC but prefer her to Trump. NT Eric J in MN May 2016 #92

I was...and they're still here...they are the ones that believe that they can win Jack Bone May 2016 #82

They are the ones that believe realmirage May 2016 #86

"Winning' isn't a defense for sanity....nt Jack Bone May 2016 #88

Non sequitur unrelated to the original point realmirage May 2016 #98

How many PUMAs are back on DU today as Hillary supporters? Live and Learn May 2016 #87

I was. I'm reflexively anti-Clinton. Chan790 May 2016 #91

"Reflexively" means you don't use your brain. Literally that's what it means. realmirage May 2016 #124

Actually, it means not even requiring thought, having been reduced to the level of automatic action. Chan790 May 2016 #152

Neither scenario uses the frontal lobe, which was separates regular realmirage May 2016 #154

No. Chan790 May 2016 #162

The actual definition realmirage May 2016 #156

Voted for Obama marlakay May 2016 #93

Ok but you answered a question no one asked. realmirage May 2016 #125

How many posters that were ardently anti-Hillary are most vociferous supporters now. hobbit709 May 2016 #101

This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #102

Why are you still here? hobbit709 May 2016 #104

This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #107

The only one thinking about post count is you realmirage May 2016 #121

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you alright there dude? realmirage May 2016 #145

I like existential questions. Why are any of us here? realmirage May 2016 #120

I was for Kucinich then Edwards then Obama k8conant May 2016 #111

So you're only a Democrat a fraction of the time. You're saying you're not a real Democrat? realmirage May 2016 #118

WTF kind of response is that? You know Kucinich and Edwards are/were dems, right? (nt) TacoD May 2016 #127

Shit I read your post too fast. Edwards was my top pick. realmirage May 2016 #131

voted Obama primary and general both times oldandhappy May 2016 #113

What is a PUMA? You are. Party Unity My Ass realmirage May 2016 #122

realmirage—In 2008, I felt great need… CobaltBlue May 2016 #115

That's a whole lot of cherry picked data applied to unrelated concepts to basically say realmirage May 2016 #123

realmirage—It’s not, as you may think, cherry-picked data… CobaltBlue Jun 2016 #171

Me, and I thought they were crap, then and now. TacoD May 2016 #130

Thanks for the great link realmirage May 2016 #135

Bernie supporter 16, Non-Obama supporter in 08 Primary, Obama supporter in 08 GE bigwillq May 2016 #132

So I guess helping Trump and the GOP further take the Supreme Court for another 30 years is fine? realmirage May 2016 #136

Folks are going to do what they're going to do. bigwillq May 2016 #151

I was all for Obama when I learned more about him and PUMAS were idiots. aikoaiko May 2016 #133

You say PUMAs are "idiots." Then you go on to say you're a PUMA realmirage May 2016 #137

No I didn't. That's the problem with HRC, you don't read carefully. aikoaiko May 2016 #138

If you don't vote for the Democratic nominee you are by definition a PUMA realmirage May 2016 #139

Where did I say I wasnt voting for the D nominee? If you see those words I urge you to see a dr. aikoaiko May 2016 #144

It's clearly implied. And thanks for supporting Hillary. realmirage May 2016 #147

I didn't say I support Hillary either. You're really not good are reading are you? aikoaiko May 2016 #148

I was. Fought a PUMA here at DU. chknltl May 2016 #140

No, the PUMAs woke up when the GE heated up and helped Obama win realmirage May 2016 #142

Your reality. You deal with it. Goodby. chknltl May 2016 #164

We'll deal with it all the way to the White House. Thanks. realmirage May 2016 #167

Was and still am a Hillary supporter in 2008.... LenaBaby61 May 2016 #150

I haven't heard my candidate praise the Rep CanadaexPat May 2016 #153

Neither, I was for Kucinich. -nt- NorthCarolina May 2016 #155

I supported Obama, and the deal with PUMAS was their unwillingness to accept a black candidate. Scootaloo May 2016 #163

Obama supporter. PowerToThePeople May 2016 #169