As my wife and I were watching some of both MSNBC and CNN last night, something hit me.

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I recalled that over the years, I have seen men (usually in management positions, but not always) walk up behind a female and start rubbing her shoulders; sort of like a massage. I always felt like that was like him crossing a certain line. I have even said something to a couple of guys about it afterward and they brushed it off saying the women "liked" it or they would have said something. My reply was always "don't count on that". I even asked them if they wanted some guys rubbing on their wives, and both said that was harmless. My reply was always that I wasn't raised that way.

I've seen this same thing in others places, and it always made me feel uncomfortable for the female. We really do ALL need to have THIS conversation.