2016 Postmortem

DemonGoddess

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8. This election was

Reply to Grey Lemercier (Original post)

Wed Nov 16, 2016, 05:29 AM

Nov 2016

I think the last gasp of the White Supremacists.

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The one huge reason why Bernie would have lost too (and never hear this discussed) [View all] Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 OP

I think you give the American people too much credit for doing BlueProgressive Nov 2016 #1

they would never had had to do any research, there would have been a million adverts Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #2

Paid for by WHOM? BlueProgressive Nov 2016 #3

Mercer, Thiel, Singer, etc the same billionaire goons who paid for the anti Clinton stuff Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #4

The same super pace running Hillary attack ads in the rust belt states? Where were you? bettyellen Nov 2016 #30

I'm in Michigan. During the last few weeks of the campaign, BlueProgressive Nov 2016 #60

I don't know details of the ad buys but I'd heard the opposite- could seem very different bettyellen Nov 2016 #61

the biggest reason is he lost to Clinton who is supposed to be a horrible candidate JI7 Nov 2016 #5

Uh... kenfrequed Nov 2016 #49

New Pre-Election Poll Suggests Bernie Sanders Could Have Trounced Donald Trump Wilms Nov 2016 #6

and zero percent of those polled were aware they would pay between 2000 and 25 thousand a year more Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #7

The pre-election polls also said Hillary would coast to victory DFW Nov 2016 #15

Always a ton of factors. But that's a pretty impressive poll. Wilms Nov 2016 #17

Polls? GMAB. I don't want to hear the word "poll" ever again lunamagica Nov 2016 #18

This is a false media narrative. The polls were closer this year than in 2012 Bonn1997 Nov 2016 #51

It's a baseless hypothetical - not running generally makes you 7-10% bettyellen Nov 2016 #31

Everyday. New talking points. Wilms Nov 2016 #35

Huh? There's been so many studies on this- new? Hardly bettyellen Nov 2016 #40

This election was DemonGoddess Nov 2016 #8

I think you underestimate the dynamic that has been kickstarted Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #10

No, I certainly do not underestimate the cost to us all DemonGoddess Nov 2016 #14

I still keep hoping I wake up and it was all just a loooong horrific dream Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #16

Even a loss by Bernie would have had a silver lining. pablo_marmol Nov 2016 #9

I actually will agree with you there Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #11

And please keep in mind that I *do not* concede that Bernie would have lost. pablo_marmol Nov 2016 #20

So only the guys get a free pass on all issues real and imagined? bettyellen Nov 2016 #32

What does gender have to do with this discussion? pablo_marmol Nov 2016 #44

Why do you think Sanders negatives would fall on deaf ears as Trump did? bettyellen Nov 2016 #46

Uhm... kenfrequed Nov 2016 #50

Well said.........I agree completely. pablo_marmol Nov 2016 #62

The American people Sunsky Nov 2016 #24

I chose her in 2008 --- we should of been electing Obama now for 8 years. n/t TrekLuver Nov 2016 #29

That's an argument that will never be settled one way or the other. Warren DeMontague Nov 2016 #12

agreed, and much will be revealed (strategy wise) on how much Trump cocks up the nation and world Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #13

Hilary lost! Cobalt Violet Nov 2016 #19

so tell me how you sell the nation on 5000, 10,000, 25,000 usd a year (and up) Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #23

We lost because of all that free air time... physioex Nov 2016 #26

One of my favorite parts of Clintons platform was her tax plan. NCTraveler Nov 2016 #21

indeed! Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #22

You're not factoring in health insurance costs Qutzupalotl Nov 2016 #25

Yes, emmadoggy Nov 2016 #27

Except they hurt the poorest among us a great deal- was not a fan... bettyellen Nov 2016 #33

The platform called for free tuition and basically free or near free universal health care Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #34

The costs of healthcare and tuition should be added to the other candidate's numbers Qutzupalotl Nov 2016 #37

The only thing worse than Benghazi or emails is the word....SOCIALIST TrekLuver Nov 2016 #28

Bernie is crazy (and incorrect) to call himself a democratic socialist, he is a social democrat Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #36

People think he is a socialist and he would of been portrayed that way. Perception and spin is TrekLuver Nov 2016 #38

That chart is damning. Would have sealed it. bettyellen Nov 2016 #47

An even bigger reason: Michael Bloomberg duffyduff Nov 2016 #39

What would this independent candidate ran as, a Predatory Capitalist maybe. B Calm Nov 2016 #42

First thing that jumps out at me is the racism in that graphic. Yeah, I know that's petty, but... Bucky Nov 2016 #41

oh ffs, you are REALLY grasping at straws, did you even look at the rest of the calculator "colours" Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #43

I'm not talking about the rest of the icons. I'm talking about the ones showing Cruz and Trump Bucky Nov 2016 #54

same basic shade as Hillary Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #55

Bucky I love you/ but jokes about racism right now- with what we are going through as a nation..... bettyellen Nov 2016 #48

Not a joke. It was an observation. To many people "Cruz" means Hispanic means dark skin Bucky Nov 2016 #53

Fair point. I have friends afraid for their lives, so I'm not really worrying about avatars, but I bettyellen Nov 2016 #56

I have 180 students and as many as a 3rd of them are now living under threat to their families Bucky Nov 2016 #57

THANK YOU. Trump woulda used his business "cred" even more ericson00 Nov 2016 #45

Good post, well thought out and researched. wisteria Nov 2016 #52

If people were doing the math that carefully DirkGently Nov 2016 #58

big difference Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #59