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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Bernie Sanders would have beaten Trump. Period. [View all]NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)61. I don't think Clinton was unelectable.
I don't even think anyone can make an educated argument for that case. There isn't one. She lost this election.
You stick with your polls. I understand your need to use them. Makes absolutely no sense for a litany of reasons, but that is on you.
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Let's not mention the "rigged primary" that cost us a lot of votes because people walked away
MelissaB
Nov 2016
#3
And the polls turned out to be SO accurate this election cycle, didn't they? Give me a fuckin'
beaglelover
Nov 2016
#60
Hillary won the popular vote by enough to make the 4 point lead accurate.
Zen Democrat
Nov 2016
#155
No, by your own metric Trump could never have won. Other than that you have personal
bettyellen
Nov 2016
#102
We don't elect Presidents with national votes. At one point (just before Comey interfered).....
George II
Nov 2016
#184
When it's all said and done, she will have lost by about 40-50 votes. That's not being "crushed".
George II
Nov 2016
#203
I never argued the simply "ham sandwiches" are anti-Semitic. Context is everything!
George II
Nov 2016
#229
"Disapproval" wasn't on the ballot. If it was she would have won by a landslide.
George II
Nov 2016
#199
Nor can you win the nomination "appealing to just the people predisposed to support you".
George II
Nov 2016
#230
You are suggesting we should run and 80 year old socialist candidate against
Demsrule86
Nov 2016
#235
You say he was establishment, but his votes came from people fed up with the system
Bucky
Nov 2016
#178
Don't forget Planned Parenthood!! Anyone working for the common good for years is SHITE!?!?!
bettyellen
Nov 2016
#106
The only regular paychecks Bernie ever got for a sustained period of time were government ones.
MADem
Nov 2016
#115
Yup, and someone posted an article here with the reasons that Sanders was popular:
R B Garr
Nov 2016
#32
we had two very suboptimal candidates. Can you name the last time a Democrat over 60 won?
geek tragedy
Nov 2016
#10
Maybe we need to make it a federal crime for an FBI director to "opine" on open investigations,
MADem
Nov 2016
#129
or, there was a group of likely Trump voters that were much harder to poll than Clinton/Sanders
geek tragedy
Nov 2016
#17
In the spirit of opinion and lessons learned, Warren was our best choice
BeyondGeography
Nov 2016
#18
No kidding. At a minimum polls found 10% of the Sanders supporters would not vote for Hillary
still_one
Nov 2016
#109
Facts, yeah right. Feingold lost, republican incumbents won. She also won the popular vote
still_one
Nov 2016
#211
Yeah, I'd love to be told to get in line or sit down and shut up one more time.
MelissaB
Nov 2016
#163
This discussion board is called "2016 Postmortem". I'm sad if my arguments annoy you.
Bucky
Nov 2016
#188
Dream on. He couldn't even beat Hillary in the primaries (oh, I know, they were
beaglelover
Nov 2016
#59
He would have lost. If the polls were wrong about Hillary, then they were wrong about him.
grossproffit
Nov 2016
#84
if you think universal healthcare (single payer, expanded medicare for all, etc)
Grey Lemercier
Nov 2016
#133
bullshit. Clinton supporters would have supported Sanders if he was the nominee. The
still_one
Nov 2016
#92
Bernie was on the rise when his wings got plucked. He would have kept rural WI, MICH, PA blue.
zonkers
Nov 2016
#97
We "Democrats" chose our nominee, and we "Democrats" will deal with the outcome. Get over it.
Tarheel_Dem
Nov 2016
#99
He would have gotten creamed. Tragically, because I supported Now support him, but he would not
mahina
Nov 2016
#100
Sorry--that's utter nonsense. He couldn't beat Clinton, how could he beat Trump?
MADem
Nov 2016
#101
In order for Sanders to run as the DNC nominee, he did not win in the primaries, he would
Thinkingabout
Nov 2016
#119
But if more candidates had entered and run in the D primary things may have turned out
Ligyron
Nov 2016
#164
It could also be said if more would have entered there would be less votes for Sanders,
Thinkingabout
Nov 2016
#182
I love Bernie too, but if he really is Superman, he would have beaten Hillary in the primaries.
world wide wally
Nov 2016
#137
Gee, Feingold didn't win, nor did those Swing state Senate Democrats against the
still_one
Nov 2016
#200
Hillary supporters would have supported Sanders if he was the nominal. At least 10%, and by
still_one
Nov 2016
#180
Biden would've been amazing, agreed. I disagree that Sanders couldn't have won black voters over
Bucky
Nov 2016
#195
If sanders hadn't run and bad mouthed Hillary...she'd be our president today.
Auntie Bush
Nov 2016
#218