2016 Postmortem

brewens

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53. "Sometimes that prevent defense'll prevent ya from winning" -Madden We weren't supposed

Thu Nov 17, 2016, 05:24 PM

Nov 2016

ask Hillary to really do anything for us. No positive change really. Sanders bashers accused us of wanting ponies or free stuff for that. I guess that's what hoping my tax dollars will some day go for things that help everyone means to third way types. Keep shoveling those tax dollars up to our overlords or risk making them angry.

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Thom Hartmann's take why she lost [View all] ErikJ Nov 2016 OP

Bingo. Else You Are Mad Nov 2016 #1

This would be a better explanation if Trump had once talked about policy. apcalc Nov 2016 #2

Supposedly her massive TV ad campaign was all Trump bashing. ErikJ Nov 2016 #4

Saw a few of her ads here in TX, mostly Trump bashing LeftInTX Nov 2016 #7

Not a big fan of the Russian propaganda channel.... physioex Nov 2016 #3

Then listen to his radio show. ErikJ Nov 2016 #5

f This noise. Raine1967 Nov 2016 #6

Why she lost: LibraLiz1973 Nov 2016 #38

Exactly. Raine1967 Nov 2016 #39

Please considering making this an OP. greatauntoftriplets Nov 2016 #41

This is a good post LibraLiz, thanks. Also Thom Hartmann is not that bright. n/t seaglass Nov 2016 #46

So true- Hartman helped normalize Trump and that is inexcusable. bettyellen Nov 2016 #48

Good summary. emulatorloo Nov 2016 #52

This LisaM Nov 2016 #51

Simply untrue. She ran policy ads, as well as positive ads. stopbush Nov 2016 #8

Can u remeber one example. ErikJ Nov 2016 #9

Yes, I can. stopbush Nov 2016 #10

Many, actually. Nt NCTraveler Nov 2016 #15

lol. Either of u 2 care to elaborate? ErikJ Nov 2016 #17

There is no point. NCTraveler Nov 2016 #19

LOL, here are several. Simple Youtube search "Hillary Campaign Commercial" stevenleser Nov 2016 #28

Misogyny is the reason why she lost. athena Nov 2016 #11

Not entirely- reactionaries loved Margaret Thatcher and still love Sarah Palin and Sharron Angle... friendly_iconoclast Nov 2016 #13

Margaret Thatcher was not an American president. athena Nov 2016 #16

Rightists were fine with the idea of Sarah Palin as potential President friendly_iconoclast Nov 2016 #23

Because she was a dumb - more a mom/ wife and never ever a bettyellen Nov 2016 #50

Elizabeth Warren woulda killed Trump. ErikJ Nov 2016 #18

Dream on. athena Nov 2016 #20

Sexism takes a back seat to ideology ErikJ Nov 2016 #22

Exactly- rightists *still* love Sarah Palin, and revere the memory of Margaret Thatcher friendly_iconoclast Nov 2016 #24

It was a factor but not *the* reason budkin Nov 2016 #49

Whatever these aren't normal times Generator Nov 2016 #12

Yep. People need to wake up. This is not normal. seaglass Nov 2016 #47

it's ridiculous to think this was the major reason. #1 reason was the fucking media being in the Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #14

But ya gotta give people a strong desire to get up and vote for ya ErikJ Nov 2016 #21

and polls showed that a higher portion of Trump votes were anti-Hillary than Hillary votes were Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #37

He's the one with the show on the Russia Today network, right? Or... NurseJackie Nov 2016 #25

LOL. U guys? U a conservative? ErikJ Nov 2016 #26

Oh brother! NurseJackie Nov 2016 #27

And has total control over his show content Omaha Steve Nov 2016 #29

Thats right. Quotes lots of DUers. ErikJ Nov 2016 #30

He has to say that... otherwise, no show. I can't trust anything from anyone who cozies-up with... NurseJackie Nov 2016 #35

Has he said anything you think was influenced by RT? Omaha Steve Nov 2016 #36

I wish he would get off Russian Today TV phallon Nov 2016 #31

He's on Free Speech TV ErikJ Nov 2016 #32

2014/03/10 Omaha Steve Nov 2016 #33

I hope so. phallon Nov 2016 #34

Thom Hartmann's two cents. Noted. oasis Nov 2016 #40

Hillary dealt with policy 10 times more than Trump did. Paladin Nov 2016 #42

I have no respect for Tom Hartmann. boston bean Nov 2016 #43

Post removed Post removed Nov 2016 #55

This makes sense to me Equinox Moon Nov 2016 #44

Right. And even most RWers are for things like ErikJ Nov 2016 #56

I wonder why Thom Hartmann failed to mention the organized 3rd party strategy R B Garr Nov 2016 #45

"Sometimes that prevent defense'll prevent ya from winning" -Madden We weren't supposed brewens Nov 2016 #53

I blame Comey....and the more news that comes out....Russian hacking apcalc Nov 2016 #54

it was the fbi plus feeling too secure about some blue states JI7 Nov 2016 #57

She has been negatively "painted" for years andym Nov 2016 #58